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Re: LF: Re: RE: Full ID

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: Full ID
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:32:27 -0000
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I Suggested a timed beacon system, a long time ago , similar to the g3plx 5 meg monitoring system , where stations simply took an available time slot and transmitted a long pulse ... monitoring software then simply looked in the slots and gave a real time s/n reading , also enabled stations could be in rx mode during there 'off' period ....

Then  wspr  appeared .......game over ..or is it  ...

So what about a timed beacon system that uses allocated time slots and the monitoring system keeps track or who is using which slot ..
what a  strange idea .. but  for  LF  may have  big advantages

All on the same frequency -so no problem with Ae Q / B/W leaving the band open for other modes
NO   need  for  silly  long  tx periods , melting  station accessories
ONLY   needs rudimental  time  lock

OH and one little oversight .. all you need is a -CW- transmitter , no frequency shift keying , no audio to rf translation ,

Down side . needs some one to write the control software ........in fact Andy , ran the basic idea on 500 for quite a while , using -one- of the three time slots of the g3plx system, with Gary providing a off-air on line monitor 200 miles north

G

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From: "Chris" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 11:20 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Full ID


Hi Rik,
The idea is fine. But, the problems I have with this are (1) Stations don't always notify us who they are and what they are up to (Mike, G3XDV, is a perfect example of how it should be done, keeping us FULLY informed), and (2) is where I agree with Stefan, what about listeners (lookers) who are not on this refelector? Two letters are of little use to them. I know two stations near me who look on 137 but are not on here - for various reasons. You just can't beat a full callsign, even if you do sometimes only get snatches of it. As it is, stations are often 'identified' by frequency with very dubious visual evidence!
Chris, G4AYT.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 10:04 AM
Subject: LF: RE: Full ID


Hello Mike, all,

for propagation test purposes (sound much better than beaconing) all we need is an unambiguous identification. A single character will lead to confusion, but 2 characters should do the job.
So what about using the 2 last characters of the callsign ?
That would make most ID's more or less of the same length.
G3XDV would use "DV", OR7T would use "7T", DF6NM would use "NM" and so on.
I cannot see any conflicts right now (= 2 stations active in propagation tests with identical 2 last characters).
Is national law requires a full id it can always be send in 12WMP CW.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

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Van: [email protected] [[email protected]] namens Mike Dennison [[email protected]]
Verzonden: woensdag 22 december 2010 17:52
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: LF: Full ID

OK, it seems that most people want full suffixes to be sent. I
believe I had good reasons to use a short ID, but I am happy to go
along with the majority view.

Of course the final straw was Mal threatening not to talk to me!

Beacon tonight (in addition to, and not instead of, real QSOs) will
be on 136.177kHz, 'XDV' synchronised with the start of each hour.

73 de Mike
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