Re: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation

["mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>]

Some private emails I am getting agree with Andy, cw made them sick with symptoms similar to Yellow Fever  or Colera.

The problem  turned out to be Asymetrical Ears where one ear had a different capture area to the other. After treatment,  in some cases Stretching or Shrinking and in more serious cases a transplant they enjoyed CW thereafter.

Symptoms of Asymetrical Ears is the Diversity Effect, signal up in one ear and down in the other then a crossover and the reverse takes place. If QSB is present especially at crossover this is Nasty and causes Testenticluar resonances, then you have another problem.

CW is not for the faint hearted.

 

  

----- Original Message -----

From: Andy Talbot

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:10 PM

Subject: Re: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation

I had a morse key, sold it at a rally recently - got quite a lot for it surprisingly.  An old airforce brass pounder thing that some enthusiast wanted. 

I used to do CW occasionally.  Once took part in NFD (Farnborough club) station that came runner up on 80m back in the early 1980's.  That was my first and one and only exposure to contest CW ever - wouldn't want to do that again, ever ever.  Every bird was sending its callsign for days afterwards. 

 

Use CW on 10GHz when absolutely essential But I'd never use that mode for choice now when efficient narrowband data modes do the job a lot better.- its just not fun at all.   I just do not like it.  So you people who do like to use CW, please stop digging at those who take no pleasure in lilstening to on off tones and decoding by ear.

 

Its not a case of  "can't" , its "won't", do not like, using CW not fun !

 

Mind you. there's only one data mode on 10GHz that is useable when rainscatter comes into plays - that's JT4G with 315Hz tone spacing.  CW works almost as well, but I think JT4G still has the edge when tones are spread out to 200Hz wide.   S

 

Opera may work on 10GHz RS, have to try it one day.

 

'jnt

 

On 28 February 2012 10:48, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

Andy

This statement sounds like a self confessed Appliance Operator Amateur you could at least try CW for a while. Intensely dislike seems strong. I even tried Opera and do not dislike it or any Data mode but I prefer CW where the skill of the operator is evident when communicating instead of pressing GREEN for tx and RED for stop and AMBER for wait incase of a DECODE as in Appliance Operator.

I would encourage you to get a morse key and have a Go, one has to be positive !!

g3kev

 

  

----- Original Message -----

From: Andy Talbot

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:10 AM

Subject: Re: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation

That''s OK Dave, if Mal's opinion won the day, then this amateur would never use the band.  I will not use Morse.  I intensely dislike it   So one way or the other one of us would populate the frequency. 

 

However, more than likely commone sense will prevail, as it always seems to in the Am bands and operating in this country,

 

'jnt

 

On 28 February 2012 06:50, Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com> wrote:

If such a rule built into the permits for this band then this amateur
for one will never consider using it.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 28 Feb 2012 at 0:02, James Moritz wrote:

> So there is
> a strong argument for amateurs not to use morse code at all in this
> frequency range. It would be better to use totally different types of
> transmission that would not be confused with a NDB beacon signal.
>

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