Re: LF: Re: MF powerful Beacon in Poland?

[Richard S <thepowerofdoubt@gmail.com>]

Alan, thanks for this tip. As it happens, Poland seems to have a very good RF path to the East

. When I was NDB DXing about 10 years ago it was a struggle to hear anything further West than say Berlin, while North and East brought it excellent reception.

Its food for thought!

73s Richard

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 2:12 AM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote:

Richard It would be a shame not to use those facilities. The area that may be useful is in providing another station that can fairly regularly be copied in the USA and say Japan. That might encourage more onto the band in those areas. That would mean tailoring the transmit times to suit them and propagation. In the same way that Joe VO1NA can be copied under most conditions in Europe. Likewise I dont think there is much activity at interesting distances from Japan so they may not be able to raise enthusiasm for LF/MF there. The path to Laurence in Alaska is perhaps their best but even that is not easy. JA to EU is difficult too I think. Look at what the LaReunion station did for activity in Europe :-))

 

Alan

----- Original Message -----

From: Richard S

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 12:01 AM

Subject: Re: LF: Re: MF powerful Beacon in Poland?

Thanks for you input Alan,

For me, the whole idea of such a beacon is to help take the hobby forward, rather than re-inventing the wheel ! If such a beacon causes QRM then it is counter productive.

But with access to lots of tall buildings (50m is a minimum in Warsaw - 100-150m+ is also possible !) I was wondering if we could put the concrete jungle to good use (;

73s

Richard SO5GB

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 12:13 AM, Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote:

Hi Richard the thinking on permanent high erp beacons has for some long time on these narrow LF/MF bands is that they are not really needed now and if installed make receiving weak DX stations more difficult for others. My own thought is that you are in the wrong place.....too near the centre of activity. A beacon to be useful needs to be at the perifery of operation. I would venture that within Europe it has no real utility. Now a station like that making contacts on CW and other modes would be welcomed I am sure.

 

50m is still "low" for a dipole and the "T" configuration would work better at that height.

 

Others may have different views :-))

Alan

G3NYK

----- Original Message -----

From: Richard S

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:04 PM

Subject: LF: MF powerful Beacon in Poland?

Hi,

If a chance arose for a powerful traditional MF beacon in Poland would it be of interest, or has WSPR done away with the need for traditional beacons?

By powerful, it would be meant the full legal limit (1w!) into a half wave dipole mounted high above ground level (minimum 50m, but possibly in excess of 100m).

Your thoughts gentlemen

73s

Richard SO5GB