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Re: LF: slow WSPR?

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Subject: Re: LF: slow WSPR?
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:29:45 +0100
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OPERA "problems"

I think clover , packtor and other commercial big $$ modems are also 'private' ? anyone is free to write a dsp decode engine , we have the numeric side ! , the fact that the systems are free for all to use with no overheads or pop-ups asking to be liked on face book or annoying adverts when you change from Tx to Rx

The time sync of wspr is only to reduce the CPU loading , has 'no affect on the s/n decode level , as you can remember , many of the posts centred on Op CPU loading , time sync could of minimised this , but at the expense of user access ,

My main aim is to maintain minimal equipment requirements for maximum on-air performance , some times these requirements conflict , but we can see from the expanding user numbers on LF , the concept is producing results and as development continues loading etc has much reduced due to Jose refining the DSP engine

Opera is still only just 8 months old and still evolving , compared to the unfortunate situation out west, I think 'we' have done well to progress this far in such a short time ?

Noting , for those who can use SDR or Audio/Rf translation , the 100Hz b/w MF-2 and MF-7 ROS data modes are available within the ROS data package , A 'live keyboard' DATA TA decode on 136 has yet to take place , live I mean single pass decode on the fly , not post processed :)


73 ALL - G..





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From: "IK1WVQ Mauro" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:31 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: slow WSPR?

Hi to all,

it is true what OPERA mode is "secret", but, I think, it is better than WSPR for semplicity: on-off carrier , no time synchronisation required (then it is possible to made a simple beacon stand alone)..

I read in this goup what DF6NM Markus is working around a "indipendent" decoding software ... (" .... I'm still working on the receive side, and the first results using coherent correlation have been very promising. MArkus")

If this will be, maybe the "solution" of OPERA "problems" ???

73 de Mauro IK1WVQ



At 10.07 11/09/12, Roger Lapthorn wrote:
Stefan,

Maybe it is worth approaching K1JT with a suggestion/request that a slower version of WSPR be created?

It has been several years since WSPR was first released (2008) and there is a lot of sense in a version with even better S/N performance. WSPR still has better Internet database support than OPERA and is not "secret" in the way the latter is.

73s
Roger G3XBM

-- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver --

On 11 Sep 2012, at 00:09, Stefan Schäfer <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's a pity that there is no slow-WSPR, e.g.
needing 32 minutes or so. If WSPR (2 minutes FSK) is about as efficient as OP8 ( i heared so), then it should be a real alternative to the slow DX modes on LF but not on MF!
>
> There is a software that plays recorded audio
files in a faster mode, so that QRSS becomes audible. VE2IQ has reported to me last year about it but i don't remember the name.
>
> Would it be possible to make our own slow
WSPR by using that software and playing a 32 minute manipulated WSPR at 16x speed, feeding it to the normal WSPR rx software? The slower code could be generated outside the program. Would that be a useful test or do i miss something?
>
> 73, Stefan/DK7FC
>
> Am 10.09.2012 19:26, schrieb Graham:
>> May be  Mal
>>
>> But  once again  Jim has  the  answer to
this problem ..if you can find his articles after Google trashed the uk500khz news group ,
>>
>> I think Jose R  predicts a  6  dB
gain by changing to PSK from the Opera on/off keying but that would prevent most of the LH/MF usage
>>
>> G..
>>
>


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