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Re: Aw: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators

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Subject: Re: Aw: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 12:03:51 +0100
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Each to his  own, but we  would  be  giving  questionable technical  advice, if  building  a  LC  vfo  was put foreword  as the  preferred path to  500 , Racal's  barlow-wadley  patent   expired round  1970 and  was  replaced  with  the digital - phase locked  design in the  ra1771/2 , with  10 Hz  stepping, round  the  same time ...
 
Non  of this is  relevant now, with the  DDS , plenty of  good   ex-equipment   5  MHz   standards  about , that  gives a  10:1  clock  over  head , all  that's needed is a  500  band  pass  filter   and  output  amp , If  a  CW  tx is  all that's  needed , later  use the  DDS  as the  conversion  oscillator  in a  down  converter ..
 
OP QSO mode  , good  question , the  phantom of the  Opera works in mysterious   ways  .. its  missing  at the  moment  from the  latest version , keep the  old  version  for  later  in the  year !
 
73 -G..

Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Aw: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators

Graham
Getting One's Oscillator started seems to be the problem at present. Perhaps a transverter is the answer.
What has happened to Opera QSO mode. I do not get any replies, others seem to favour Beacon mode.
G3KEV
 
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From: Graham
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: Aw: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators

I would  say  the most useful thing  to  make  would  be a linear  transmit   HF > 500   convertor .. then  all  modes are  possible ,  this  is not  137 , ultra stable  long qrss  will  not  work , due to the  short  qsb  and  varying   skip  distance, this can be observed  in qso  or beacon  mode , propagation  will  fail before the  call  is  sent !
 
G.. 

Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 9:16 PM
Subject: Aw: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators


Dear Stefan,
building stable oscillators was a topic in the eighties, and it depeded all on getting stable components. Later developing OMs reported, that the oscillator for the qrp-TRX was the most difficult and time consuming part in development. My recomendation: Buy aready built up DDS-oscillator, available at Funkamateur.de  (herre with IQ-sigs) or ELV-Elektronik.  It is stable, shows  little noise on LF/MF. Must just be built into a enclosure.  It is a time saving solution. But: DFCW is not possible, and a keyed frequency divider  must be added; I divide by factor ten with CMOS-ICs.  More details on request.
55, Hans-Albrecht, DK 8 ND


Gesendet: Donnerstag, 05. Juli 2012 um 21:30 Uhr
Von: "Stefan Schäfer" <[email protected]>
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators
Hello Ha-Jo,

Can you pull one of the xtals to cover the whole band?

73, Stefan

Am 05.07.2012 20:57, schrieb [email protected]:
> Dear all,
>
> the only parts I have bought so far for MF (still beeing engaged in
> other developments) are two crystals: 6,5536 MHz and 7,0200 MHz, to be
> mixed with each other. The mixer is another bipolar transistor, and its
> emitter current is being keyed. A final source follower after the
> low-pass filter will deliver the output to 50 ohms.
>
> The same solution I have also used on LF.
>
> 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB
>
>
>



  

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