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Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators

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Subject: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators
From: "Alan Melia" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:14:39 +0100
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Hi Stefan I may be shot down here but I believe you must avoid toroids as the tuning element in a stable oscillator. It is difficilt to be sure of the mechanical stability of the winding and ferrites have a high tempco, iron dust are better but not as good as an air core. My old fashioned idea is that ceramic tube formers are the thing, I am not sure about styroform for RF, I would use NPO ceramic. You will probably need to trim the temp coefficints to get drift under control.

Lookinf at your requirements of 4times I doubt you would get enough swing mixing 2 oscillators to 2MHz. If you do you will have to start in the overtone range say 35MHz I think. I've not tried it so high.

Alan.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Schäfer" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators


Hello again,

It is a bit disapointing. The oscillator is drifting several 100 Hz when looking to the divide by 4 side, i.e. the PA output i.e. close to 475 kHz.

Does someone have the circuit of the 137 kHz oscillator of DJ2EY? It must have been published in the CQDL in 2003 i think. This oscillator was very simple and reasonable stable.

I used 9 turns on a FT37-43. No Amidon cores of the T50 or T37 series are available in the moment. For the JFET is used the BF862 which may be not the best choice since the drain currents are quite high due to the high gain. I also used styroflex Cs but don't know if it is a good choice.

Varactor diodes, yes, another idea. But the drift problems may be the same. I can accept a drift of < 20 Hz after switching the VFO on (1 minute).

So maybe i have to find a suitable pair of xtals and build a similar design than Ha-Jo does.

Ah BTW, what is the name of that popular DDS VFO IC. Not the SI570. It has to work without any programming and USB interface and all that PC stuff. However a DDS IC that operates on a frequency defined by external parts (potentiometer) will have the same problems, or not?

Any suggestions.

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 05.07.2012 22:42, schrieb Roelof Bakker:
Hello Stefan,

The NE602 works very well as oscillator and delivers a clean and low noise signal.
One of the main problem in building VFO's is the mechanical design.
It can be done, but it is not trivial when you use a tuning capacitor and gearbox. Mechanical rigidity and freedom from micropfonics requires a solid enclosure which with the gearbox need to be mounted on the frontpanel, rather than on the chassis.

As the frequency range is small, it will be mechanically much easier to use varactor tuning in conjunction with a ten turn potmeter. I have been there and done it all.
I have build a 40 m receiver with varactor tuning and it is rock stable.

Building VFO's is fun!

73,
Roelof, pa0rdt





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