Return to KLUBNL.PL main page

rsgb_lf_group
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: VLF: Transatlantic success East to West

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: VLF: Transatlantic success East to West
From: DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de>
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 01:07:24 +0100
Cc: Paul Nicholson <vlf0403@abelian.org>, Michael Smith <mike@unixnut.net>
Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1513987644; bh=V5trHX/f5J0n4n6hqP347jNjN7V/Ww0NWkN6UcTeRVg=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:From; b=Hzl3La7sR5pTuhEYG42zjn038bR4/bREibp9FHIdgzxNtCiHH2gwiUDWXC0pR8Q6l S0FWlfOaUXsZwjqnCGfG6HJdHcH63EG8Bt8yWathAoF4e+L5SDMg6YUGLPWrg6y7Px 4EViCsMLyh5izd7uCdJjbsEXnpEVCireMYGCJZpznkcKVrXKNO0pB1PEkXqzT/Qv7h 8I3/vLfCpwzlbLfeAu2C3H1z1Z5E75eae4z2PvEqcingsjefNDKNwEHQj1XFgDdW44 28vQUetXq+PO4LQ8yt3cSH3sK9+XEsprV3yOllEllOF0FiUG2yt62rv8jCSrmGK40b W0BZV/MniEBIw==
In-reply-to: <17640699-682a-2d4e-6c5f-8fa14d411530@abelian.org>
References: <2dbcd2a8-0109-41e4-c0ca-aada17f54de8@abelian.org> <5A2D886D.5060109@posteo.de> <5A31249C.2040307@posteo.de> <5A326AAE.7020808@posteo.de> <6b23a798-f28e-828c-bd8a-43ba8af0fb6a@abelian.org> <346e5dfe-da5f-79e9-c097-e3012a3b74bd@abelian.org> <5A344E83.3020308@posteo.de> <5A37BB18.4090806@posteo.de> <79b53aa1-0fa7-d02c-34bf-5b2e3b7bdddb@abelian.org> <5A381F2B.7000304@posteo.de> <3871624a-11dc-12b8-853c-8454840ca9ff@abelian.org> <5A398786.7000001@posteo.de> <5A398906.9000806@posteo.de> <6833b8ea-5cf8-809e-364e-a9f47e04bc44@abelian.org> <5A3D1058.2060801@posteo.de> <17640699-682a-2d4e-6c5f-8fa14d411530@abelian.org>
Reply-to: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3
Hi Paul,

Again thanks for the summary.
Ok i see, it makes no sense that way. The last > 100 transmit hours did not lead to a success...
Does the message decode when correcting the phase? I think not.

BTW, instead of doubling my antenna current, Mike could build up a 3 axis RX :-) This would give us an average gain of at least 6 dB i think.
And we need to learn to predict/estimate the phase, if possible. Where 
are the propagation experts?! :-)
73, Stefan


Am 22.12.2017 17:16, schrieb Paul Nicholson:
Stefan wrote:

> f = 17470.1000 Hz
> Start time: 18.Dec.2017  21:30:00 UTC
> Symbol period: 45 s
> Characters: 2
> CRC bits: 14
> Coding 16K21A

> Can you give me a feedback from the last night?

Now with 4 nights:

 18/19th Eb/N0 = -4.9 dB, S/N -39.6 dB in 1Hz, phase 110.4
 19/20th Eb/N0 = -6.5 dB, S/N -41.1 dB in 1Hz, phase 125.6
 20/21st Eb/N0 = -7.8 dB, S/N -42.4 dB in 1Hz, phase -22.5
 21/22nd Eb/N0 = -9.4 dB, S/N -44.0 dB in 1Hz, phase  55.6

No improvement on the earlier stacking: best is still
18/19 + 19/20 to give Eb/N0 = -2.7 dB

This isn't going to work without a repeatable night phase.

--
Paul Nicholson
--





<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>