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Re: VLF: First VLF detection DL > EA

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Subject: Re: VLF: First VLF detection DL > EA
From: Jacek Lipkowski <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 23:14:50 +0100 (CET)
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for comparison the second transmission with notching (using Paul's settings) and a noiseblanker (abt 8dB better S/N):

found rank 0 ber 2.4792e-01 Eb/N0 9.9 M -1.090797186e+00 [CIAO] ps [ 28  -30  
-30    0    0]
carrier phase: -0.8 deg
carrier Eb/N0: 11.8 dB
carrier Es/N0: -4.47 dB
carrier S/N: 25.36 dB in 34.7 uHz, -19.24 dB in 1Hz, -53.22 dB in 2.5kHz
elapsed 588

VY 73

Jacek / SQ5BPF

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017, Jacek Lipkowski wrote:

Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 22:38:33 +0100 (CET)
From: Jacek Lipkowski <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: VLF: First VLF detection DL > EA

decoded the 20171205 transmissions on 17470.1Hz, but without the noiseblanker. the decoded messages were already published, so i'm including them here too.

7:00 UTC transmission

prep [  0    0    0    0    0]
found rank 0 ber 2.8333e-01 Eb/N0 8.4 M -2.589702606e+00 [E] ps [ 0 0 0 0 0]
carrier phase: -6.0 deg
carrier Eb/N0: 10.3 dB
carrier Es/N0: -5.94 dB
carrier S/N: 17.86 dB in 34.7 uHz, -26.73 dB in 1Hz, -60.71 dB in 2.5kHz
elapsed 28


21:40 UTC transmission

found rank 0 ber 3.6042e-01 Eb/N0 4.3 M -3.565651894e+00 [CIAO] ps [ 35 -90 -90 -60 -60]
carrier phase: -8.8 deg
carrier Eb/N0: 3.4 dB
carrier Es/N0: -12.88 dB
carrier S/N: 16.94 dB in 34.7 uHz, -27.65 dB in 1Hz, -61.63 dB in 2.5kHz
elapsed 397

i will try it with additional notching and a noiseblanker and it that makes a big difference i will add it to my 17470.1Hz grabber on the klubnl.pl page as well


VY 73

Jacek / SQ5BPF


On Mon, 4 Dec 2017, DK7FC wrote:

Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 22:49:56 +0100
From: DK7FC <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: VLF: First VLF detection DL > EA

Hi VLF,

Tomorrow i'm going to gtry to pass a first EbNaut message over to EA5DOM. Here are the details:

f = 17470.1000 Hz
Start time: 05.Dec.2017  07:00:00 UTC
Symbol period: 120 s
Characters: 1
CRC bits: 6
Coding 8K19A
Duration: 08:00 [hh:mm]
Antenna current: 1 A

73, Stefan


Am 02.12.2017 13:31, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández:
      Hi VLF
Congratulations Stefan and thank you all for the good information exchanges in the reflector

It is all the effort at your side Stefan. I still didn't do the homework to decrease the local QRM, which is quite high as you can see in the 25KHz spectrogram. There is a very nasty noise which appeared just this last couple of days and affects exactly 17470Hz. It is random and runs for a couple hours. Can be seen as vertical noise lines in the lower spectrograms and is very noticeable in the 47uH spectrogram

It is my first detection of Ham activity under LF so far. And there is a lot to improve to get same results at 8270Hz. A new Rx setup in a different (hopefully cleaner) QTH is in the "To Do" list ;-)

73 de Luis
EA5DOM 

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
De: [email protected] [[email protected]] en nombre de Daniele Caccia
[[email protected]]
Enviado: sábado, 2 de diciembre de 2017 12:07
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: VLF: First VLF detection DL > EA

Dear VLF er

Congratulations to all for the results obtained so far!

Best regards from Daniele SWL I55387FI -ITALY-


 


2017-12-02 10:30 GMT+01:00 Alberto Martinez <[email protected]>:
      Congratulation Stefan and Luis!
It´s weak but seeable. very good work.

73.
Alberto-EA4GHB

2017-12-02 9:57 GMT+01:00 DK7FC <[email protected]>:
      Hello VLF friends,

This morning i looked on the EA5DOM VLF grabber and saw much better traces of the carrier on
      17.4701 kHz.
      https://ea5dom.ure.es/grabber/index.html

I find this is a valid one-way contact or carrier detection and i think it is the first time
      that this was done by amateurs between DL and EA.
A distance of 1393 km, http://k7fry.com/grid/?qth=IM98XN&from=jn49ik00wd

It looks like there is some QSB on that path, higher than observed a similar distance at 8270
      Hz.
We can now think about improvements and about a first message attempt...

      73, Stefan




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