73 de Pat g4gvw
QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK

Thought for today:

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Talbot <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 7:57
Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group










Your dual tone proposal is an excellent idea but suffers from one
major drawback for LF.  Being a dual tone sysytem, it requires a
linear transmitter.   If you could adapt the scheme to a single tone
only version, say by using two adjacent time slots, that would
overcome the linearity problem.  Listeners woud then have to remeber
teh position of teh first slot and mentally place this with the tone
of the second one.

Subject for a future Data column perhaps.   Most slots are filled, but
April 2009 may be available ;-)

Andy  G4JNt


2008/8/12  <[email protected]>:

Hi All,

I am inviting comments on a new mode that might help to satisfy both

the

"traditionalists" and the hankerers after new technology.

My project is based on the visual semaphore but using a two tone

system to

define the positions of the flags. The frequency of each tone would

define

the angular position of each flag. Ideally, the sending speed would

bear a

relationship to the sender's speech rhythms and would therefore be

almost

infinitely variable as between characters but have a mean speed

suitable to

the allowed bandwidth thereby giving the equivalent of "fist". A

"space"

tone between characters would be a fixed frequency to be used as a

pilot

tone allowing synchronisation of tone detectors.

I intend to call this system "Interupted Pilot Tone Dual Frequency

Modulated

Continuous Wave Semaphore Equivalent Signalling Telegraphy" or

IPTDFMCWSEST"

!

So may we please now end all these silly arguments about "appliance
operators" while I return to local ragchews on my frequency modulated
dishwasher and loaded dipolar strimmer!


73 de Pat g4gvw
QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK

Thought for today:

What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them

one day!

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:05
Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group

As far as I know commercial morse services never tried to use the

morse

code for printing.

For printing the teletype machines have been invented, a technology

with

allows many additional features to be designed, a process still

ongoing.

Therefore I would recommend everybody not willing to learn the morse

code to follow the examples of commercial teletypers. But everybody

may

do what he thinks would make him happy.

As I have grown up with the morse code I find it fully sufficient for
what I have to communicate over radio, to keep technology simple. I
guess I would never had come to amateur radio around 1950 if I had to
struggle with complex communication modes as featured today.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


"mal hamilton" <[email protected]> schrieb:

The appliance operators DELIGHT !!!
No skill required, just fumble about on a keyboard, no Ears needed.

Some

elocution lessons and a microphone might be a more suitable mode.
G3KEV


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Talbot" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: LF: new cw yahoo group


> Excellent.
>
> And if more people used computer generated morse for transmitting,

the

> decoding software would be more reliable still.  We don't want any

of

> this hand sent, badly formatted stuff :-)
>
> Andy  G4JNT
>
> 2008/8/12 Peter Cleall <[email protected]>:
>>
>> Saw this and thought it was amusing in the light of recent

postings.

>>
>>
>> Yahoo mail group dedicated to
>> CW without CW skills !    Check it at
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW_Blasphemy/
>>
>> The group focuses on software for receiving and sending CW , plus

>> gives tips for getting on the CW bands with NO CW skills (thus

the

>> group's name).  Emphasis is on contesting and DXing with CW

software.

>>
>> peter
>>
>>
>
>
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