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LF: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise

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Subject: LF: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise
From: "Roelof Bakker" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:44:01 +0100
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Hello Jim, LF group,

Many thanks for your comments on my local noise report.

So one would expect predominantly "magnetic" noise from mains wiring. <<

That is what I thought as well. However, tests with a battery operated SPM-3 SLM, showed that local noise on an outdoor E-field antenna is substantial less than on a magnetic field antenna.

I have also been testing this the other way round: reception of the carrier of DCF-39 and semi-local NDB's. Mounting a mini-whip on a bamboo pole and putting it outside an upstairs window, the signal of DCF-39 increases 22 dB. Whilst holding a talk for the local ARC in a concrete buiding, the same test was performed on 399.5 kHz. The difference was as high as 40 dB. One could reason that the same attenuation level applies for propagation of indoor electric fields to the outside world. So far my guess is that this explains the low local noise level on my E-field antenna, though it is mounted only 5 metre from the house.

As we all know, magnetic field antennas, e.g. loops, do receive very well indoors. Thus the same reasoning applies for propagation of local noise in the magnetic field to the outside world: little if any attenuationa at all.

It should be nice if someone else could also perform these tests.

Best regards,

Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt




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