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LF: RE: RE: TX Toroid Material ->Correction

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Subject: LF: RE: RE: TX Toroid Material ->Correction
From: "Clemens Paul" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 11:10:48 +0200
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Hello Ken,

I have mixed up input and output.
So the correct values are 1.1mH **next to the tubes** and 201µH **next to the 
50 Ohm load**.
C stays the same.
See RFsim screenshots.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] 
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Clemens Paul
>Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 6:49 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: LF: RE: TX Toroid Material
>
>Hi Ken,
>
>I believe two of your component values are off.
>I calculate 201µH for the L next to the tubes,625pF for the 
>shunt C and 1.1mH for the second L .
>For the 201µH L I would use iron powder (Amidon #2), for the 
>1.1mH #43 ferrite.
>Use the mini toroid calculator to find the appropiate size 
>regarding number of turns and
>allowed flux with safety margin.
>
>73
>Clemens
>DL4RAJ 
>
> 
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected] 
>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken
>>Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 5:41 PM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: LF: TX Toroid Material
>>
>>Dear All. I am having problems with the choice of material for 
>>the output network of the 475kHz Valve TX. The network is an L 
>>? C ? L, ?T? network with an input impedance of 2100 ohms and 
>>a load of 50 ohms, for this configuration the input L is 
>>7.7mH, shunt capacitance is 117pf, and output L is 1.1mH. The 
>>PA design using a 6146 low power or 813 high power work fine 
>>when simulated using LT spice IV. When testing in the real 
>>world using the 6146 there is in excess of 800v rms rf on the 
>>network side of the anode coupling capacitor, but nothing 
>>after the input L. I can only conclude that I using the wrong 
>>type material for the toroids, I used the largest size 
>>(unmarked) toroid which gave me a modest number of turns. I 
>>have checked the Amidon tables and Iron Powder because of the 
>>low AL values, which leaves Ferrite, which mix would you 
>>recommend? The simulations give me output powers 90W for the 
>>6146, and 300W for the 813. I would be grateful for any core 
>>material advice .
>>
>> 
>>
>>Ken Wright.
>>
>>M0KHW
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>
>

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