To: | [email protected] |
---|---|
Subject: | Re: LF: Coherent BPSK on LF using EbNaut |
From: | Andy Talbot <[email protected]> |
Date: | Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:21:39 +0100 |
Dkim-signature: | v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZuK9/Zhj5I3O/24tU5HnqLwA0FDhktJQef6DVV6E/Lg=; b=PNyd5uUMcaN5+2RlR5FO9EKkgo7Oz0dqOJ5TEqpMHg+4jKdSVVFaOngCU8U37xA1u3 sEsR24XYIWkD2gqUbwLZSDVMmqSoa9VogNAXSVMQlT65uC9QdaD8y+66+ENwCAovWEf7 cwdup0sQxuS5ftJKh8oD6E7JPv1sq3/02J8amX1hcwPk6tFcNoIYs/fzNtqsLwkm7Mdj DvMA/D3kNXTNl+Na4lXo9BNxdYSc/iHkA9BgeCbfETNsDl389/5i0cwBLrS56tzkcPxw pzwHoAcBzUUpM1L3oytvuCG8lmtieUfaaaEmAoJ0zW4xpPZXmZ4hcn3OHchmqzj4+uMY tGFw== |
In-reply-to: | <[email protected]> |
References: | <[email protected]> <CAA8k23T1or-Rgck+UAGo12413LATN-dNNQTAAAiggcVmWvbxhw@mail.gmail.com> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <CAA8k23Qmn7m9gZ3+BZMhW5G+qNwCrC=kzsK1pvKGvYuh4UmUnA@mail.gmail.com> <[email protected]> |
Reply-to: | [email protected] |
Sender: | [email protected] |
No, this doesn't work as the sampling of the I and Q information must be simultaneous. Doing it your way, they are offset by a cycle of Fc In fact, I had this very discussion with G3PLX back in 1997 as I was looking at doing it all in one of the early PICs around then (the old 16C71 device). His suggestion was to do the following: Sample a signal centred on 1kHz at 4kHz sampling rate and number successive samples S1, S2, S3 and S4, repeating after the four. Construct the two values I = S1 + S2 - S3 - S4 and Q = S1 - S2 - S2 + S4. This has the effect of multiplying the 4kHz sampled waveform by two 1000Hz SQUARE waves and mixes the signal to baseband centred on 1000Hz input with a final sampling rate of 1kHz. Forming this sum of four samples is a decimation of the base sampling rate from 4kHz to 1kHz . Normally decimation requires the input to be pre-filtered to suit the output sampling rate, and this can't be done on the chip. But if the baseband is externally limited to the range 750 to 1250Hzit will prevent and aliasing. Back then that was done by using a receiver in CW mode with its 300Hz filter to guarantee a bandpass filtered 1kHz tone. It worked quite well, considering the rather average 8 bit A/D inside the early PIC devices, and allowed me to measure the phase of off air signals like MSF and others with remarkable success. The receiver was an RA1792 with external reference driven from a caesium standard. I subsequently got rid of that Rx, and don't actually have any HF receiver that can be locked to a reference. Hence the thoughts about doing accustom LF one for low bandwidth signals. I do still have the Cs standard, but to avoid wearing out the tube (which is still healthy) leave it in free-run mode with just its OCXO operational until needed. It only takes about 1.5 - 2 hours to warm up to full operation. The OCXO alone is almost as good as a rubidium standard, provided I adjust it slightly for summer / winter mean temperatures Andy G4JNT On 28 September 2015 at 11:54, Johan Bodin <[email protected]> wrote:
|
<Prev in Thread] | Current Thread | [Next in Thread> |
---|---|---|
|
Previous by Date: | Re: LF: Coherent BPSK on LF using EbNaut, Johan Bodin |
---|---|
Next by Date: | AW: LF: AW: VO1NA on 137.777, Joe |
Previous by Thread: | Re: LF: Coherent BPSK on LF using EbNaut, Johan Bodin |
Next by Thread: | Re: LF: Coherent BPSK on LF using EbNaut, Johan Bodin |
Indexes: | [Date] [Thread] [Top] [All Lists] |