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Re: LF: VLF in Canada - earth loop

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Subject: Re: LF: VLF in Canada - earth loop
From: "Markus Vester" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 00:16:28 +0200
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Stefan,
 
yes, understood. If you want complete invisibility though, you could actually bury the wire in the ground, without negative effect on the magnetic field. Or cover it with fallen leaves etc. May seem a bit odd to literally put an antenna underground - tried it with a pair of LF receive loopsticks in the garden and it worked quite well.
 
73, Markus
 

From: DK7FC
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VLF in Canada - earth loop

Hi Markus,

Right. But 8m gives a secure distance above ground regarding the visibility of the wire. 2.5m would work as well but then everybody can see it (easier). And some m above ground allows to use the wire for some other games, such as a LF dipole (TX!) or a LF 3 Lambda long wire or what ever :-)

73, Stefan

Am 24.06.2014 19:03, schrieb Markus Vester:
Stefan, Joe
 
> I think that 8m above ground should be fine for any tests :-)
well (apart from practical reasons like people tripping over it), you might just as well lay the (insulated) wire on the ground.
 
From receive measurements with your earlier and shorter earth antenna, we deduced a depth of return current of 29 meters at 23.4 kHz, which would scale to about 48 m at 8.3 kHz. Thus a two kilometer long earth antenna would have the same radiation resistance (0.35 milliohm) as a 17 m high top-loaded vertical. But skin depth and efficiency might be greater for very low ground conductance.
 
Best 73,
Markus
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