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Re: LF: Re[2]: Re: QRSS OP WSPR

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Subject: Re: LF: Re[2]: Re: QRSS OP WSPR
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 22:34:03 +0100
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Thats  the  problem   3 dB =  1000 watts 
 
Your looking  from a  good  SDR Rx    op32  = -40 dB    OP65  must  be  -43 / -44 dB  bottom  limit  , but then  Markus   has  cunningly  devised  a  post  process  , correlation  system that  pattern  matches  the  OP keying  signature  for  each  call  , that  gives  another  7 db or so   +   taking  things to  -53    , that  7 db is   x4  power  , an  extra  4Kw   free , noting that  the  OP system is  averaging and will  make use  of  any  qsb  , that  -43  is  average  over 65  mins
 
In this  situation  , with  minimal  efficiency  ,  max  AE system  , Max  TX power , Rx sites  are  well  sorted  this side  ,   the  only  option  left  is  time , if  op65   wont   cross  the  pond  ,   Jose  has a   OP130 option   , that's  a  long  cycle  , but  its  another  3  dB  and  double  the  sample  size  , after  that   stability is a  problem
 
from the  first  decodes   OP16   would  of  made  it  locally , that  would  give  a  qsb  profile , as to  what  go's on , Gus  sm6bhz  is  starting  to  think OP8 is  better  than  OP32 , hes  putting  in some  good  ranges  in the  night  , but  he  has  quite a  substantial   Ae  ..
 
Design  =  efficiency  =  TA   :- )
 
73-G,

From: Bob Raide
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:08 PM
Subject: RE: LF: Re[2]: Re: QRSS OP WSPR

G;
If I could handle more voltage at the base of my vertical I have the capability of going to 5 KV plate volts @ 2 amps plate current.  I would have to use a keyed CW mode to run this rig like that.  But it would kick ass.  I wouldn't want to run a steady state keydown carrier much over 4-5 KW.  So OP 65 would have 3+ db jump over anything else right off the bat!  But can't handle the ant input voltage-this is a log house and wood constructed garage for the shack-fire dept over 2 miles away in town-this place would burn to the ground-Bob
 

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To: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 21:55:50 +0100
Subject: Re: LF: Re[2]: Re: QRSS OP WSPR

We have still  the  last  working  OP2   qso  mode , which  can  send   ' I have two cats' 
But  the  decode   s/n is   -20 dB , ROS-MF-2   is  round  -26 dB  -28dB   about the  same
as  wspr-2  , but a  full  free  running  data  mode
 
At  speeds  less  than  1  baud  , would  any one  use  such a  mode , there  was  a  ROS  0.1 Baud
7/8  db lower  , but  very  very  slow  !  ..
 
In the  start , was the  problem  of  translating   audio  to  rf  on 136/500  , but  now  that
seems  to  be  much  less  of a  problem
 
73-G,

From: Alex R7NT
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 9:40 PM
Subject: LF: Re[2]: Re: QRSS OP WSPR

Dear LF enthusiasts!
my opinion is not very original in English - in Russian I would write A4+++ :-)

"CQ R7NT K"
QRSS20  -  28' 40'"  simple TX, visual decode, subjective report, random time, QSO mode....
DFCW20  - 11' 4"      little more complicated TX, visual decode, subjective report, random time, QSO mode....

"any call ++"
Qp32  - 32'    simple TX, software based decode/report, random time, no QSO mode....
WSPR-15 - 15'  little more complicated TX, software based decode/report, 00', 15', 30', 45' times to start, no QSO mode........

QRSS20 ~~=DFCW20 ~~=OP32 ~~=WSPR-15

Comparing OP32 and WSPR-15 (OP8/WSPR-2) is equally as comparing QRSS20 and DFCW20 (QRSS3/ DFCW3)
I personally like DFCW, JT9-5..10 more.... but I have the little choise now....
...maybe WOLF agn?

73! Alex R7NT  136.73.ru
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