Re: LF: 500 clutter

[M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>]

Thanks for the info Mal.

 

As I understand it the NDBs are classified as Low Power up to 50W, Medium Power up to 2000W and High Power above 2000W. So yes the ones I can hear could be like BC stations power wise. Well I hope the band builds but there arn't many (current ops) in the UK to migrate to 630m when we eventually get it. So you are probably right it may fizzle by the time we get on, all the DLs  and others may be gone!

73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX

From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, 29 October 2012, 14:39
Subject: Re: LF: 500 clutter

Pete

Some of these beacons are also running a few hundred watts. I am often on 500 working QSX and have worked all the DL stns so far active. There are also others that have moved to 472 like OK2BVG, OM1II, OZ8FOC in QSO cw mode and I have worked them as well.

The new band could well fizzle out when the novelty has worn off like 500 in the beginning and more so 137 Khz

Beacon pollution has been the killer. Except we see more CW QSO acty the future for the band is bleak.

For some reason the big players on 160 have not taken an interest on 500 or 137.

What potential operators want to hear on MF/LF are QSO'S taking place and not some unknown repeative Beacons churning out a callsign, locator and QSO via Internet.

I can understand Weak signal experiments on EME and such associated frequencies and distances but it is not necessary on MF.

I and others have worked worldwide on 160 metres without it at moderate power levels.

I have also worked across the pond and the Russian stns on 500 with good solid reports on CW and QRS 3 over the years since the permits were issued in the UK

 

 

 

 

73 de mal/g3kev

 

----- Original Message -----

From: M0FMT

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 11:52 AM

Subject: Re: LF: 500 clutter

Hi Mal

 

630m band is much much more active than 600m at the moment at least. All DLs of course, there hasn't been a night over the last couple of weeks when I have not heard a CW Call or QSO on or around 472.5. It may be like 600m at the start then die out. The NDBs give a very good indication of band conditions. Some of these stations are only 25Watts and I am hearing stuff 400 to a 1000 miles out every night, but getting the operating conditions for most is difficult, too bad it's not published.

 

73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX

From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
To: rsgb <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, 29 October 2012, 9:25
Subject: LF: 500 clutter

MF

I hope the new 472 Khz band starting for all in January is not going to be cluttered by DATA or other Beacons. There are already more than sufficient NDB's on the band, in fact they are also a nuisence.

Stick to your guns Joe with JT9 qso mode only

 

de Mal/G3KEV