Re: LF: Re: 502 CQ

["Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>]

Is there a  LF  sub culture of inverted CB   'slang' ???

Mostly the description "crocodile" is used by those who are unable (or
somehow unwilling) to radiate a decent signal on the band, LF or MF.


Actual meaning >>  Crocodile is CB slang for someone with a powerful 
transceiver, who talks but can't hear others.  (poor rx)
We could  have  fun  inventing  a whole directory

Broken Canary   ...  Failed Opera  decode

Tie Clip  ...   Mini-Whip  Ae

007   ...     Report from  Moscow

and so on

G :)




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From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 6:32 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 502 CQ

> I shall remain Silent while you devour each others observations, however
> G8POC would like me to intervene so that he could ATTACH.
> He finds it difficult to tell a DIT from a DASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
> maybe
> an Alligator
> g3kev
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stefan Schäfer" <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:48 AM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: 502 CQ
>
>
> PS: There is no definition that your ears have to be at least as good as
> your mouth.
> Especially on LF and MF there are much more RX-only stations who are
> happy to receive a signal, maybe even in CW. The bigger your mouth, the
> wider the distance you can reach RX-stations. If i would be a RX-only
> station on LF, i would be amazed by receiving a signal from e.g. >
> 3000km. If nothing can be received then i would tend to focus on other
> bands after some time. And who knows, maybe some of these RX stations
> become interested to start arranging a TX system as well!
> On the other side, i am happy to receive signal reports from OMs with
> big ears. So it is always worth for everyone to do what is possible by
> the personal limitations, the RX and TX side indenpendently. :-)
>
> 73, Stefan/DK7FC
>
>
>
> Am 23.07.2012 13:21, schrieb Stefan Schäfer:
> > Hi Geri,
> >
> > Am 23.07.2012 08:17, schrieb Holger 'Geri' DK8KW DI2BO W1KW:
> > > Yes, it's partly due to groundwave/skywave conditions but I am
> > > already known as the crocodile (big mouth, tiny ears) over here in
> > > Northern Germany because my signal is 599 all around while I can
> > > barely hear people.
> > Mostly the description "crocodile" is used by those who are unable (or
> > somehow unwilling) to radiate a decent signal on the band, LF or MF.
> > If a poor antenna is used and then just a few 10 watts RF power, then
> > it may be normal that you cannot hear them, depending on the path and
> > time and QRN situation. If you have a good antenna and high power then
> > it is no problem for others to hear you. If those OMs think "i can
> > hear him but he cannot hear me, so he is a "crocodile"" then this is
> > not your problem. So maybe you simply have a big mouth and normal ears
> > but the other station has a small moth and normal ears! :-)
> >
> > > On LF I had optimized my receiving system pretty much but on MF I
> > > have a high noise floor, probably from household electronics.
> > Hm, normally this is a stronger problem on LF. But PA7EY has reported
> > the same, his LF noisefloor is lower...
> >
> > > One solution surely is to put an e-field antenna some 25m away from
> > > the house into the garden, equally far away from all houses in the
> > > neighborhood.
> > Yes this is certainly a good idea. For me this is no option though.
> >
> > > Currently I am using my transmitting umbrella antenna to receive,
> > > which always proved best on LF but probably needs some re-thinking
> > > for MF.
> > My transmit antenna produces a big receive signal level of course but
> > the S/N is at least 6 dB worse than the small active E field probe
> > produces! (Of course i used an attenuator to achieve the same signal
> > level, for comparison).
> >
> >
> >
> > 73, Stefan/DK7FC