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Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators

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Subject: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators
From: "Clemens Paul" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 17:41:08 +0200
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Jay,

what is "MEK" which is referred to in the link you've given?

'...What I did was to dissolve polyfoam shipping material
in a mixture of MEK and xylol. '

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators


Stefan

As others have pointed out "6" material is about the best for VFO circuits. Ferrite, especially very high perm material is quite inferior.

For securing turns I've found 'old fashioned' polystyrene coil Q dope to be a good choice. Doubt that it is sold anymore in the current 'scaredy cat world' ... but you can make your own. See http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=149757 . Also a recipe there for Napalm should you need any of that ;~)

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Schäfer" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators


Hi Roelof,

Another interesting information which is new for me. Thank you. I think many of us have learned a bit from the topic.

I thought about using super glue to fix the winding on the core.

Or is this not to be recommended for some reason?.

I will use a T50-6 then. This will take a few days until i have it on hand, unfortunately.

73, Stefan

Am 06.07.2012 09:39, schrieb Roelof Bakker:
Hello Stefan,

A FT-37-43 ferrite toroid is not suitable for a VFO as you found.
Powdered iron cores from Amidon are much better in this regard.
From the common available parts -6 material has the lowest temperature coefficient,
-7 is slightly better:

T-50-2: 95 ppm/C
T-50-6: 35 ppm/C
T-50-7: 30 ppm/C

The temperature coefficient does not vary with the size of the toroid.

There are tricks to achieve mechanical stable windings on a Toroid.
One is to wind it as tight as you can and than place the coil in boiling water for 10 minutes.
This removes the mechanical stress and the winding settles down.

73,
Roelof, pa0rdt






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