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Re: LF: Ferrite RX antennas

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Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite RX antennas
From: Piotr Mlynarski <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 03:24:59 +0200
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Stefan Schäfer pisze:
Jim, LF,

I'll try to go on as fast as the distributor and ebay did ;-) So this is the current situation:

Decided to use the 2x7 bundle. The cross section area of 7 pcs. just lokks better :-) Also the complete stick is much more handy and robust.

Markus/DF6NM gave me the hint to overlap the inner rod by 50%. So i intentionally broke one rod and put the 2 halfs to the inner ends. One complete one is now in the inner center.

See: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/ferrite%20antenna%20parts.JPG


Dear Stefan,  LF Group,

when i saw the above picture with one of the ferrite rods inserted half way into the bundle of others packed hexagonaly in a first instant i've asked myself what is the reason Stefan is making a mini-device for slowing down fast neutrons..... ;) Stefan, you have a "nasty" habit of triggering various activities of almost all members of this reflector.. :) You already have created a 8.97 kHz saga and now we start to play with ferrite antenna. - of course, i , too, got infected...

Back to 70's and 80's the basic QRO army equipment in some countries was the R-140 TRX station. Its TX pwr was well above 1 kW in the range 1.5 - 30 MHz. On the receiving side , among different wire antenas, the R-140 setup had so called "ferrite receiving antenna" ( polish abbrev. FAO) for RX'ing ground wave comms within the range 1.5 - 12 MHz. Some time ago i managed to get this FAO antenna on one of domestic auctions. it has two very big ferrite rods - see: http://obrazki.elektroda.pl/3964686700_1292246389.jpg one such a ferrite rod is 450 mm long and its diameter is 40 mm. ( these numbers are refered to the external housing of the ferrite material) i put 64 turns of wire on this rod - it comes out with 714 microHenr of inductance so approximately 2nF cap resonates this antenna in 137 khz region. It was parallel LC combination so i took BF245 FET as buffer and BC109C as an amplifier. i put this very ugly/shaky construction down on the floor, 2 meters from the balcony window. On tthe balcony i have 1 square meter loop with 11 turns and OP27
( see:  http://ik4hdq.net/doc/testi/smlloop.pdf  )

Loop and the ferrite antenna were oriented towards JO52WG grid-location ( dcf39). i have used SDR-IQ with 9 khz span with 137.5 set as mid freq. The ferrite antena ( placed in the middle of the room ! ) performed slightly better than loop placed outside.
ferrite: http://www.toya.net.pl/~mlynarski/fer.jpg
loop:   http://www.toya.net.pl/~mlynarski/loo.jpg
yours, Piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz/jo91rs/

p.s.  still have some time off so i will continue...




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