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Re: LF: Re: Faulty FKP-1

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Faulty FKP-1
From: "James Moritz" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 00:07:12 +0100
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Dear Stefan, LF Group,

So what do you suggest? Using the caps in series to bring down the voltage per cap or switching smaller values in parallel?

Well, The first priority is to ensure that the AC breakdown voltage is high enough - the capacitors will not survive long otherwise. Practically, this will require series capacitors to reach your required operating voltage ...

So when running 500 W RF, as i did during the tests of the last days, about 1 kV rms was applied. Surely this caused the breakdown. So if i design the caps for 2 kV rms, all will be fine :-) 6 A rms will be no problem for the caps i think, rather for the variometer ;-)

If, for example, one looks at the Wima data for 1000pF, 2kV DC FKP1 capacitors, the RMS voltage limit is 700V up to about 55kHz, above which it decreases proportional to 1/f. This implies an RMS current limit of only 0.24A. For a 10nF value, the maximum current works out to about 1.1A - the current limit does not increase in proportion to C. So it would be quite hard to produce a series combination with a reasonable number of capacitors with the required current rating.

But the Wima data is based on only 10degreesC teperature rise - presumably to allow operation at high ambient temperatures without exceeding the 100degreesC maximum operating temperature. In a reasonably well-ventilated amateur TX circuit, the ambient temperature probably will be below 40 degrees, so perhaps 60 degrees of internal I^2R heating would be the maximum allowable. This would allow the current rating to be increased by a factor of about 2.4. So now the 1000pF capacitor could be operated at 0.58A maximum - the RMS voltage at 137k would then be 680V, still within the "rupture" limit.

For 500W out, the current into 50ohms load would be 3.2A, so 7 x 1000pf capacitors in parallel would have an adequate current rating ... A 2 x 7 series/parallel combination should be adequate for the applied current and voltage, and give the 3.5nF you had before.

I am not sure if capacitor manufacturers would approve of this calculation, but practical experience shows that the capacitor current can be considerably higher than the values implied by the data sheet graphs.

Incidentally, I believe the reason the HF RMS voltage limit of these capacitors is always well below VDC / sqrt(2) is due to corona discharges occuring in microscopic voids in the film, which cause the dielectric to deteriorate over a period of time. This does not happen when a DC voltage is applied. So the AC voltage has to be derated to a level below the onset of corona.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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