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Re: LF: Re: WSPR does not work

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR does not work
From: Piotr Młynarski <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:16:46 +0100
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Wolfgang Büscher wrote:



I do confirm that there is a blocking effect in the WSPR decoder, but I am not really sure about the details...
......
But drawing any conclusion may be premature - some neighbour may simply have switched off his local QRM generator. My impression is that some processing stages within the WSPR decoder lack dynamic range, or the FFT has significant leakage, or some part of the calculation is done with short integer values (instead of double precision floating point values). The decoder is open source, but lacking any knowledge of the Fortran programming language, I won't try to understand the algorithms.
.......
73,
 Wolf DL4YHF  ...-.-


Hi Wolfgang, LF
i also can confirm some sort of the "blocking" effect but indeed it is to early to draw serious conclusions . when i red your mail and you mentioned about the FFT as a "side product" of the ongoing discussion i just realized why wspr is using this , say, strange, 12000 Hz sampling rate ( there was also some fuss about this particular sampling rate due to its non-integer downconverting from hardware established 44100 Hz and therefore - it is guessing - causing some problems with decoding the signal properly) . the wspr is using bin size of FFT =8192. In other words , the 162 data bits are audio sampled 8192 times each and therefore when using 12000 Hz sampling rate the wspr transmission lasts 162*8192/12000 = 110.59 seconds - less than 2 minutes - it composes nicely into 2 minutes periods of TX/RX etc.. providing also a room for time adjustments t/r switching quick decisions what # of tx message to pick up when being in the wsjt/qso mode .. if the 11025 sampling rate was used than we have 162*8192/11025 = 120.37 seconds i.e. JUST OVER 2 minutes period with all the 'consequences' ...

73, peter, sq7mpj
qth: lodz, poland/jo91rs/

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