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LF: Re: Re: 136khz WSPR

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Subject: LF: Re: Re: 136khz WSPR
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:42:57 -0500
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Jim

Had a look at noon using an Argo QRSS10 screen and could not find a single
open area wider than 5.02 Hz anywhere in the band. All 5.02 Hz spaced lines
are plenty bright so they're likely a problem for WSPR. Guess the program
wasn't designed to co-exist with loran...

Jay

----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:39 AM
Subject: LF: Re: 136khz WSPR


Dear Jay, Vernon, LF Group,

Jay - Thanks for looking -  I can see that could be the problem!

The WSPR signal has a bandwidth of around 6Hz, so the problem is finding that much of a gap between lines. E.g. with the Northeastern USA chain with 9960 GRI, lines should appear every 5.02Hz roughly, although I expect some will probably be stronger than others. Can you look with Argo on a wider setting to see if there are any 6Hz wide spaces, or at least areas where the lines are weaker?

Vernon - I'm afraid "SCP/LN8PHG" probably isn't a genuine signal, but WSPR producing a false decode - this is fairly common when narrow-band QRM is present, although only occurs rarely when just the band noise is present. Because of the way WSPR encodes/decodes, it will usually try to format any "gobbledygook" as a legitimate message with callsigns, reports, etc. You can usually tell by the outlandish callsigns and locators. A pity really, otherwise they would be pretty impressive DX!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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