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Re: LF: Re: Keeping the smoke in

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Keeping the smoke in
From: "Laurence KL1X" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:48:18 -0900
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No cooling fan Warren just open "ish" air circulation without it things got a little warm especially at 100F ambient in the summer....I love Okie...


From: [email protected] (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ)
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Keeping the smoke in
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 23:10:18 +0000

Hi Mike,

I don't think that the cores were damaged from the last incident. I was able to run the 250 watt transmitter through it with no problem and no measureable reflected power. I understand that Laurence also used 3 stacked FT-290-77s but actively cooled it. A cooling fan is not easy to do in my case since the tuner is in a weathertight box.

--
73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
FN42hi
http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "MIKE REID" <[email protected]>
> What cores did Laurence use and what wire size & type? Sorry to hear she failed > again. Maybe the cores got damaged the other day with no external indications > like cracking or? I don't recall you having trouble with the transformer when it > was dry and Teflon is way better than cotton so that leads me to think the cores
> were no good after the first heat cycle/failure.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>   To: rsgb lf reflector<mailto:[email protected]>
>   Cc: LWCA LF Reflector<mailto:[email protected]>
>   Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 4:41 PM
>   Subject: LF: Keeping the smoke in
>
>
>   Hello the list,
>
> I've heard that the secret to keeping things going in electronics is to
> make sure you don't let the smoke out (that's what makes it all work
> apparently).
>
>        I have again failed to do so. After rewinding my toroidal loop
> transformer in the ATU, I had a core overheating problem. The core is 3 stacked
> FT-290-77 ferrites.
> After setting the Decca up on QRSS for an hour or so I noticed a problem with > the rf output current, it was pulsing up and down as if the Decca guard circuit > was cutting in to protect the PA. So I through the breaker and went out and > opened the tuner box. Smoke poured out. Bad news. I checked the temperatures > with a non-contact infra-red thermometer and the toroid core was 343 Farenheit. > The Curie temperature for type 77 ferrite is 200 C (which is 392 Farenheit). > Not sure yet if the core is permanently damaged, I'm still waiting for it to
> cool down.
>
> All credit to Laurence who managed to get a loop to work at this power > level! And especially with the currents he dealt with in the parallel wire loop
> configuration.
>
> I guess I need a bigger core than the 3 stacked FT-290-77s any suggestions
> out there?
>
>   --
>   73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ
>   FN42hi
>   http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm<http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm>
>
>






From: "MIKE REID" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: LF: Re: Keeping the smoke in
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 22:50:50 +0000
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