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Subject: | Re: VLF: Using resonance effects of earth-ionosphere for radio experiments |
From: | Markus Vester <[email protected]> |
Date: | Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:08:30 -0400 |
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Hi Stefan, VLF enthusiasts, Paul, Markus, VLF,in July 2015, I attempted a temporal correlation of "Tweek-mode" resonances in Heidelberg and Nürnberg against Blitzortung data from a passing storm front: http://df6nm.bplaced.net/VLF/spherics/tweek_resonances_dk7fc_df6nm_Blitzortung_150725_0700.jpg It seems that the vertical resonances between earth and ionosphere extend only to a lateral range of about 90 km, and they have died down at ~ 180 km. Horizontal currents (e.g. cloud-to-cloud lightning or loop antennas with upward radiation) are required to excite and receive them. Respective emails with further details are at https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/rsgb_lf_group/conversations/topics/4924 https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/rsgb_lf_group/conversations/messages/4976 Best regards, Markus (DF6NM) -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- Von: DK7FC <[email protected]> An: rsgb_lf_group <[email protected]> Verschickt: Mo, 23. Okt 2017 13:17 Betreff: VLF: Using resonance effects of earth-ionosphere for radio experiments Some days ago there have been local thunderstorms near DL0AO in JN59. Two images in attachemnt. The distance is about 225 km. The thunderstorms were on a small spot only. The sferics are clearly pronounced with an SNR increase of 10 dB and more, quite a sharp peak/trace. That's not a new observation but now we are operating just in that frequency range! The effect seems to appear in integer multiples of about 1.7 kHz, which is roughly a wavelength of a 180 km, and the earth-ionosphere height is just lambda/2. It would be most interesting to see how a similar spectrogram looks from Pauls site (time and date given in the images). Is the effect still there in 881 km? How strong is it expressed. Are the frequencies the same? If so, we should try to find that region of enhanced propagation, by using a 2-tone or 3-tone carrier signal. No problem to provide that from here. The effect is less expressed on 3.4 kHz in this event. Recently we discussed about a geometric single-hop path difference between DK7FC and DL0AO (Markus calculated 63.3 km difference between groundwave and skywave). 5.17 is at a 1.09 lambda difference on that path, so groundwave and skywave will add constructively. The 3rd order trace of the sferic resonance effect is also at 5.1 kHz! 3.4 kHz, or the 88.2 km wave, is then at 1.4 lambda difference, so skyway and groundwave do not add so constructive. Maybe this explains the lower expressed resonance effect? It looks like there can be SNR difference of several dB when changing the frequency by just a few 10 Hz, at least arround 5.1 kHz and on the path to DL0AO. We should try to check that! Could there be a frequency with an advantage on the way to RN3AUS? On a 2000 km path the effects will be less expressed. But worth to think about... 73, Stefan |
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