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Re: LF: VO1NA in Todmorden on 8270 Hz - also in Amberg?

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Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA in Todmorden on 8270 Hz - also in Amberg?
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 19:36:16 -0230 (NDT)
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Hello Markus,

Yes, the TX is QRV 10 uW on 8370.00709 Hz +- QRI a few ppb and has been on since 4 October. This is exciting news. Let's hope it appears again.

Best Regards
Joe

On Tue, 10 Oct 2017, Markus Vester wrote:

Joe, have you also been on VLF yesterday Oct 9th? There seems to be a small 
dash on your frequency on the DL0AO grabber (EW earth-loop, 31.4 uHz, 1 hour 
scroll).
http://df6nm.bplaced.net/dl0ao/VLFgrabber/vlfgrabber_dl0ao_test.htm
(unfortunately the 31 uHz instance has been restarted today but the dash is 
still visible).

Best 73,
Markus



-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Markus Vester <[email protected]>
An: rsgb_lf_group <[email protected]>
Verschickt: Sa, 7. Okt 2017 23:57
Betreff: Re: LF: VO1NA in Todmorden on 8270 Hz






Hi Joe,

good to know that you are on air again. The DL0AO grabber in Amberg (East 
Bavaria) includes your frequency in one of the 31 uHz instances.

Yes, the high wire for 630m (~5 W EIRP) and the low for 36000m.
Shouldn't that be the other way round, maximizing the important VLF radiation ? 
;-)

Yes, pps and NMEA to SpecLab but evidently no discipline yet
Getting the SpecLab samplerate detector to work will lock your frequency but 
not the phase. To avoid the risk of phase jumps due to soundcard glitches or 
buffer underruns, I would then strongly recommend to set up the software PLL 
with audio feedback from a pickup probe. This method also has the advantage of 
maintaining absolute phase despite variations in the antenna circuit. But I 
have to admit that setting up SpecLab that way is a bit more involved, 
especially when you also want to apply PSK modulation for EbNaut.

With the programmable ourtput frequency from the NEO7, you may have two other, 
simpler options:
- You could tell the NEO to output the desired transmit frequency directly. For 
EbNaut, you can later add the traditional XOR or balanced mixer circuit.
- You could use the NEO with high frequency output as a clock source for your 
DDS. EbNaut could be generated either by XOR or by manipulating the DDS phase 
word.

Best wishes,
Markus

-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: jcraig <[email protected]>
An: rsgb_lf_group <[email protected]>
Verschickt: Sa, 7. Okt 2017 18:46
Betreff: Re: LF: VO1NA in Todmorden on 8270 Hz


Paul Markus and Group,

Thanks Paul for the reports. The radiation gives more gratification than the 
efforts to get a stable carrier.

On Sat, 7 Oct 2017, Markus Vester wrote:

Great result!

Truly astounding that Paul can receive 10 uW at 3600km with 10+ dB S/N.

Hmm I thought that VO1NA had been on 477 kHz during those nights. Joe are you 
transmitting MF and VLF simultaneously, on two antennas?

Yes, the high wire for 630m (~5 W EIRP) and the low for 36000m.

Do you already have GPS lock available on 8.27 kHz?

Yes, pps and NMEA to SpecLab but evidently no discipline yet. The pps pulse 
looks strange on the SL scope and there are 'PPS zero-crossing too
flat' debug errors on SL SR correction. This is all the NEO7M seems willing to 
provide at the moment; connecting the raspi3 to the tiny USB
pins on the NEO7M was fun, but otherwise unproductive. I'm hoping it's possible 
to send commands directly to the neo7m via usb without a special chip.

RSNTP is running on the SL pc.

73
Joe


73, Markus



-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
An: rsgb_lf_group <[email protected]>
Verschickt: Sa, 7. Okt 2017 10:36
Betreff: LF: VO1NA in Todmorden on 8270 Hz



VO1NA on 8270.00709 is a good nighttime signal at Todmorden
recently. Here are the last three night's spectra in 34.72 uHz
(8 hours 23:00 to 07:00 UT) using combined E-field and H-field.

http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/171007b.gif S/N 12.6 dB
http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/171007c.gif S/N 14.5 dB
http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/171007d.gif S/N 11.4 dB

Not bad for 8uW ERP at range 3575 km and an undisciplined
OCXO.

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Paul Nicholson
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