Re: LF: VO1NA in Todmorden on 8270 Hz - also in Amberg?

[Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>]

Joe, have you also been on VLF yesterday Oct 9th? There seems to be a small dash on your frequency on the DL0AO grabber (EW earth-loop, 31.4 uHz, 1 hour scroll).
 http://df6nm.bplaced.net/dl0ao/VLFgrabber/vlfgrabber_dl0ao_test.htm
(unfortunately the 31 uHz instance has been restarted today but the dash is still visible).

Best 73,
Markus



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Von: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Sa, 7. Okt 2017 23:57
Betreff: Re: LF: VO1NA in Todmorden on 8270 Hz

Hi Joe,

good to know that you are on air again. The DL0AO grabber in Amberg (East Bavaria) includes your frequency in one of the 31 uHz instances.

> Yes, the high wire for 630m (~5 W EIRP) and the low for 36000m.
Shouldn't that be the other way round, maximizing the important VLF radiation ? ;-)

> Yes, pps and NMEA to SpecLab but evidently no discipline yet
Getting the SpecLab samplerate detector to work will lock your frequency but not the phase. To avoid the risk of phase jumps due to soundcard glitches or buffer underruns, I would then strongly recommend to set up the software PLL with audio feedback from a pickup probe. This method also has the advantage of maintaining absolute phase despite variations in the antenna circuit. But I have to admit that setting up SpecLab that way is a bit more involved, especially when you also want to apply PSK modulation for EbNaut.

With the programmable ourtput frequency from the NEO7, you may have two other, simpler options: 
- You could tell the NEO to output the desired transmit frequency directly. For EbNaut, you can later add the traditional XOR or balanced mixer circuit.
- You could use the NEO with high frequency output as a clock source for your DDS. EbNaut could be generated either by XOR or by manipulating the DDS phase word.

Best wishes,
Markus

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Von: jcraig <jcraig@mun.ca>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Sa, 7. Okt 2017 18:46
Betreff: Re: LF: VO1NA in Todmorden on 8270 Hz

Paul Markus and Group,

Thanks Paul for the reports. The radiation gives more gratification than the efforts to get a stable carrier.

On Sat, 7 Oct 2017, Markus Vester wrote:

> Great result!

Truly astounding that Paul can receive 10 uW at 3600km with 10+ dB S/N.

> Hmm I thought that VO1NA had been on 477 kHz during those nights. Joe are you transmitting MF and VLF simultaneously, on two antennas?

Yes, the high wire for 630m (~5 W EIRP) and the low for 36000m.

> Do you already have GPS lock available on 8.27 kHz?

Yes, pps and NMEA to SpecLab but evidently no discipline yet. The pps pulse looks strange on the SL scope and there are 'PPS zero-crossing too
flat' debug errors on SL SR correction. This is all the NEO7M seems willing to provide at the moment; connecting the raspi3 to the tiny USB
pins on the NEO7M was fun, but otherwise unproductive. I'm hoping it's possible to send commands directly to the neo7m via usb without a special chip.

RSNTP is running on the SL pc.

73
Joe

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> 73, Markus
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> -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
> Von: Paul Nicholson <vlf0403@abelian.org>
> An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Verschickt: Sa, 7. Okt 2017 10:36
> Betreff: LF: VO1NA in Todmorden on 8270 Hz
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> VO1NA on 8270.00709 is a good nighttime signal at Todmorden
> recently. Here are the last three night's spectra in 34.72 uHz
> (8 hours 23:00 to 07:00 UT) using combined E-field and H-field.
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> http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/171007b.gif S/N 12.6 dB
> http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/171007c.gif S/N 14.5 dB
> http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/171007d.gif S/N 11.4 dB
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> Not bad for 8uW ERP at range 3575 km and an undisciplined
> OCXO.
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> --
> Paul Nicholson
> --

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