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Re: LF: A transductor instead of a traditional variometer on VLF/LF/MF?

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Subject: Re: LF: A transductor instead of a traditional variometer on VLF/LF/MF? Done!
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Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 17:17:34 +0200
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Hi all,

The Q of such a coil will of course depend on the signal amplitude because it is can become nonlinear. For example, you can use it in a RX loop, a tank circuit, L and C in series, then you can steer the resonance frequency in a wide range. It will not be overloaded. It may be even a better choice than a varicap diode. I thought about many fields where it can be used on LF/MF/VLF and also on the higher frequencies.

OK, i've made a Q test at signal amplitudes of about 1V. This transductor was designed for VLF, so i will stay at the low frequencies. You may try the same on LF, using just 2 cores instead of 4 and less turns, for higher currents and less L!

9.72 kHz | I = 0 | Q = 157
16.42 kHz | I = 0.1A | Q = 137
26.34 kHz | I = 0.25A | Q = 167
43.67 kHz | I = 0.5A | Q = 218
72,44 kHz | I = 1A | Q = 131
Not really consistent, hm? BTW i increased the number of the DC turns to 40 yesterday, so about 2x the value.

During the measurements i saw the remanence, so it is not so easy to measure the Q accurately with the simple method i used. So the results are just a rough idea. The transductor has some drawbacks like remanence and temperature dependency. But if used in an automatic variometer, this has no negative effect i think.

In a first test putting the transductor into the VLF antenna system yesterday (Tom is right, the latest version is outside the stacked coil) it was possible to move the resonance arround 6470 Hz to +- 20 Hz, which is already quite helpful but may still be a bit to low. I will make further measurements.

73, Stefan




Am 16.05.2016 12:02, schrieb DK1IS:
Am 16.05.2016 um 11:20 schrieb Wolfgang Büscher:
Or, depending on how the ring core is oriented in the "mostly air core" coil, the AC flux lines would run perpendicular to the DC flux, which also eliminate the need for a large AC-blocking coil for the DC exciation.
That´s right, Wolf, but I think Stefans latest approach is to use the transductor as an external inductivity in series with the main coil and no longer as a ferrite core with controllable permeability inside the main coil (what should be possible too). Nice idea anyway but as Roeloff alredy asked: what about the Q of the variable unit? Its influence on the whole system shouldn´t be so large because of the only small variable part of the inductivity but one should take care for a possible heating of the transductor cores at full antenna current. Already tested, Stefan?

73,
Tom, DK1IS





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