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Re: LF: Re: WSPR Test

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR Test
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 23:57:29 -0000
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PE1NNZ

Produced  a  description  of the  coding  system  and  may  be  downloaded  from  :-

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/8NQWUSIeU-ZkgXqY7gzqVv8--XEKLbV8TzxeCfIUD8vzCggQNN7yqkl5x0OhXdfvOiYmbDF-3vTZATFrDCp8ew/opera_protocol.pdf

The  latest PIC  code  is  available  from the   windows  software    , once  the  call  is  inputted  the  code is  produced  and may  be  cut and  pasted , Andy  did have a  pic  keying  device  on his  web site
 
 
 
There  is a  6  page  article  about  Op  , but  its  in Spanish 

73 -G.


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From: "Minto Witteveen" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:37 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: LF: Re: WSPR Test

> Hi Eddy,
>
> Where did you get the description of the OPERA protocol? And did you write
> the encoding yourself?
>
> I found a protocol description of Opera on Andy’s (G4JNT) website, but it is
> reverse-engineered, and I seem to remember him complaining about
> undocumented (and unannounced) protocol changes.. So I am not sure how up to
> date his description is.
>
> I understand that Opera is quite efficient, so I am still somewhat
> interested… but not in just simply generating Opera timings with an
> obfuscated and secret external program and then parsing this through my
> PIC/AD9850 TX. Where is the fun in that?
>
> As for  a final build.. there is no such thing here @pa3bca… As soon as it’s
> finished (i.e. I cannot think of additional things or software to add) it
> will probably start gathering dust somewhere. Or (more likely) I will attach
> a key(er) and use it for CW. Beaconing for beaconing’s sake is not for me.
>
> 73’s and please keep us posted on results.
> Minto pa3bca
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse
> -----Original Message-----
> From: g3zjo
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 00:02
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR Test
>
> Hi Minto
>
> Nice one.
>
> There is a 4066 on my Modulator / Mixer board too,  unused here, I can
> reconfigure and plug in the Key. I am not sure of any ultimate
> configurations for a final build, it is still at the experimental stage.
> I have a CW / OPERA QRSS Module too, I  have coded and tested OPERA it
> is OK but I can't get to love it.
>
> 73 Eddie G3ZJO
>
> On 09/02/2013 22:22, Minto Witteveen wrote:
>> I too have built a standalone 472 100 Watt TX with a PIC (and an AD9850).
>> The software I have written so far now handles CW, QRSS, DFCW and WSPR-2
>> and WSPR-15  (thanks to Andy who wrote up a nice description of the WSPR
>> protocol).
>> Even with a simple ‘air cooled’  10 MHz crystal  (40 MHz with 4x PLL)
>> running the PIC timekeeping is quite good, and it seems good enough to
>> have the PIC running for more than a day and still getting WSPR decodes.
>> If I run it from a 12.8 TXCO it will be even better.
>> I now sync the TX (for WSPR) by getting the PIC out of reset exactly on an
>> even minute….
>>
>> I am not sure if I am going to implement Opera. There is too much
>> obscurity here for my liking. Apart from the difficulty of getting a good
>> and complete description of the protocol it’s the secrecy itself that has
>> no place in radio amateurism (at least that is how I think about the
>> issue).
>>
>> As for being a despicable  appliance operator: notice the 4066? Here I can
>> attach a key..
>>
>> The PIC board will disappear. Possibly I will add a PIC to the DDS board
>> (will have to reposition the 7805 for it to fit). Either that or I will
>> add a small board with the PIC and connectors for the LCD display, the
>> RS232 for a terminal and possibly a rotary encoder.
>> Add a 24V 150 Watt Meanwell switching PSU and it’s a neat little
>> self-contained package.
>>
>> See attachments for a photo of the current setup and a quicly drawn
>> schematic
>>
>> 73's Minto pa3bca
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse
>> -----Original Message----- From: g3zjo
>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 20:43
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: LF: Fwd: WSPR Test
>>
>> Yes I know it is always nice to see home brew, even from despicable
>> appliance operators.:-)
>>
>> Some recycling of some of my 500KHz rock bound modules.
>>
>> Eddie
>>
>> On 09/02/2013 19:22, Stefan Schäfer wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 09.02.2013 19:58, schrieb g3zjo:
>>>> No time reference just very accurate PIC timing which is good for weeks.
>>>
>>> Ah yes. BTW when using e.g. a netbook in /p WSPR tests it is totally
>>> sufficient to sync the PC clock manually to your wrist watch (which
>>> was synced at home), if necessary. So it is not really a pro-argument
>>> for Opera that no timing is required. I've recently tested that at
>>> home with my own transmissions...
>>>
>>>> PA, yes tiny by your standards, but it is the PA that has been
>>>> growing recently.
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>>> Pictures please!
>>>> Oh dear do you really like rats nests?
>>> ...and dirty fingers, yes ;-)
>>>
>>> 73, Stefan
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eddie
>>>
>>>
>
>
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