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Re: LF: Fwd: Re: Ideas for a slower WSPR for the 137 khz band

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Subject: Re: LF: Fwd: Re: Ideas for a slower WSPR for the 137 khz band
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:08:26 +0100
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Well yes  Joe  ( K)  is right,  BPSK  is  better  , but  needs  a linear  system to  transmit  .... Joe (EA)  has  stated  , he could  extract  another  6  dB  if the  modulation  system  was  changed ......but that's   no longer  Op-ook a  fsk return to  zero, as in some  modes   is  not bpsk  ,
 
As Jim's  published  design  shows  its possible to  add  a  modulator  to a  class e amp , by  envelope  restoration ,
 
WLOF  is  already  coded  and makes use of  multi pass  to  gain s/n  , but  is  psk and  needs  a liner system ...and is  not a   one-pass  decode  system , when  the  s/n is  low .but  at  -41 dB , by what  ever scale  , OP32 is well  into  the  noise  in single pass ?
 
Which is  back to  where  we  started .....
 
But  as Laurence's   'Pesky Protons'   go and play  somewhere  else , then  we all  have a  ring  side seat  for   Stefan's  'Flying Circus'  at least over this  winter !
 
G..
 

 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:40 PM
Subject: LF: Fwd: Re: Ideas for a slower WSPR for the 137 khz band

Message from Joe/K1JT.

BTW i don't know if it is OK for Joe that his email is forwarded to everyone in the web! But i think it would be OK for him to forward it to a limited number of active radio amateurs operating in the 137 kHz band. So if you make this email public in the web, it is your decision!

73, Stefan/DK7FC

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Betreff: Re: Ideas for a slower WSPR for the 137 khz band
Datum: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:28:47 -0400
Von: Joe Taylor <[email protected]>
An: Stefan Schäfer <[email protected]>


Hi Stefan,

Thanks for your interesting message.

A super-slow version of WSPR (or something like WSPR) should be 
possible, and I might be able to devote some time to writing the 
necessary code.  You should know that I will not be able to get to it 
for several months, however.  Perhaps near the end of this year.

One question for you: It seems to me that propagation at 137 kHz (and 
possibly also 475 kHz) is generally stable enough to make very slow BPSK 
a better modulation scheme than the 4-FSK used in today's WSPR.  Do you 
agree?

	-- 73, Joe, K1JT
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