Hello Graham,

   that is simply remarkable. Same report from Joe, DF2JP in Opera and WSPR within only some minutes time difference.

WSPR:    21:08   DK6NI   0.478488   -23   0   JN59ln   0.1   DF2JP   JO31jg   351   304 

Opera:    21:19    477 DK6NI de DF2JP Op4 351 km -23 dB in Duesseldorf

73 de Gerhard

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Von: [email protected] [mailto:owner-[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Montag, 9. Juli 2012 09:56
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: LF: AW: 477 WSPR + OPERA MONITOR

Tnx Jan

Yes , the  data  server is  something  that  needs  to  be constructed , but

upto  now , no one  is  looking  at  this  ... may  be when the  Op beacon

is  part of the  new   VHF  fixed  beacons  , then  someone  will  take  a

look  ! , JR is  only   DSP  !

There  are searches  and  downloads  that  can be  taken  from the

PSK-Reporter  system  ....   Im not  sure  as  to  what  can be  extracted

.. something  that  needs  to  be  investigated  ?

There  are  some  major  differences  with  wspr/Op

Not  all  stations  can  Tx   wspr  on MF due to  TX   construction, wspr  =

fsk    Op = on/off   keying

OP  used  average   s/n  measurements

Hopefully   more  stations  will   monitor   wspr + Opera  , so  that  all

stations  are  able to  use  beacons etc

73 -G.

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From: "pa3abk" <[email protected]>

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 1:36 AM

To: <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: LF: AW: 477  WSPR  + OPERA   MONITOR

> It was nice to see that Gerhard used both modes after each other.

>

> Opera:

> 23:16    477 DK6NI de PA3ABK Op4 506 km -29 dB in Dordrecht with 0,1w + 40

> Meter En

> 21:40    477 DK6NI de PA3ABK Op4 506 km -24 dB in Dordrecht with 0,1w + 40

> Meter En

>

> And WSPR:

> 2318 -25 -0.3   0.478512  0 DK6NI JN59 20

> 2144 -20 -0.7   0.478513  0 DK6NI JN59 20

>

> As you can see it's a benefit if you can run both progs from the same

> "carrier" frequency.

>

> I'm still more in favour for WSPR.

> Opera is simple, it just starts it's beacon.

> And if you have the same beacon interval as another you will never "see"

> each other.

> Reason I start the beacon manually, carefull looking at the interval of

> other users.

> WSPR has a random start clock so chances you will catch up is more likely.

>

> When I'm transmitting Opera it gives me a "Marconi Poldhu" feeling, WSPR

> is just  1 click "on" and after 2min click "off" :-)

> WSPR data is nicely stored on the server, Opera is lost after 24hrs unless

> a "cut & paste" action is done.

> OK we are amateurs and there is no such thing as free meal.

>

> Jan/pa3abk

>

>

>

>

>

> On 9-7-2012 1:48, Graham wrote:

>>  Ok Gerhard

>> The last  wspr  I have  is  23-08 ?  signal  was  dropping  at that  time

>> Was the  beacon   alternate  ?

>> Later in the  week , I will  try wspr/opera  beacon on 500  , see what

>> happens

>> 2012-07-08 23:08 DK6NI 0.478499 -28 0 JN59ln 0.1 G0NBD IO83lk 1058 299

>>  2012-07-08 22:58 DK6NI 0.478499 -29 0 JN59ln 0.1 G0NBD IO83lk 1058 299

>>  2012-07-08 22:54 DK6NI 0.478499 -26 0 JN59ln 0.1 G0NBD IO83lk 1058 299

>>  2012-07-08 22:48 DK6NI 0.478496 -26 0 JN59ln 0.1 G0NBD IO83lk 1058 299

>>  2012-07-08 21:44 DK6NI 0.478501 -27 0 JN59ln 0.1 G0NBD IO83lk 1058 299

>>

>> Opera ,   PA3ABK    was  21-40  , then  23-16 ?

>> *

>>

>> 23:16 477 DK6NI de PA3ABK Op4 314 mi -29 dB in Dordrecht with 0,1w + 40

>> Meter En

>>

>> 21:40 477 DK6NI de PA3ABK Op4 314 mi -24 dB in Dordrecht with 0,1w + 40

>> Meter En

>>

>> *

>> 73 -G..

>>

>> *From:* Beckmann, Gerhard <mailto:[email protected]>

>> *Sent:* Monday, July 09, 2012 12:20 AM

>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

>> *Subject:* LF: AW: 477 WSPR + OPERA MONITOR

>>

>> Hello Graham,

>>

>>     worked both in Opera as well as in WSPR on 477, but you only decoded

>> in WSPR-Mode for this.

>>

>> vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI

>>

>> ====================

>>

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>

>> *Von:*[email protected]

>> <mailto:[email protected]>

>> [mailto:owner-[email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Graham

>> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 8. Juli 2012 23:45

>> *An:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

>> *Betreff:* LF: 477 WSPR + OPERA MONITOR

>>

>> 477  WSPR  + OPERA   MONITOR RUNNING

>>

>> TILL  ROUND    2330    GMT

>>

>> 73 -  G..

>>

>

>

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> pa3abk <-> dordrecht jo21it

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