Thanks Graham - an interesting mode...!
And appreciate the signals. The PC didn't misbehave overnight.
Laurence KL7UK/AM Minneapolis enroute Anchorage
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[email protected]Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:08:26 +0100
Subject: Re: LF: ros
That's an unfortunate start to the
winter !
The MF mode has had very
little usage compared to the HF , so its quite
possible some bug's lurk within
as with the HF side,
operation is unique , however all be it
functional , its worth noting , the
whole mode/project is the
some work of one person ..
It is firstly a qso mode ,
so as noticed the beacon side tends
to favour users of the channel ,
As noted by Gary , there was a
beacon-timer freeze problem with the previous
issue
Programme freeze , was that PC
lock , or just ROS ? not experienced any freeze
problems for some time now
Psk-Reporter can offer some
history data from the stats page, unique band
spots for 136/500
can be obtained by setting
the Band = unknown. but to date there is no
searchable data base
for the ros system.. ( A stored
history of the received text would be
useful....but not avilable)
Static problem's , a bit subjective may
be ? but if the same occurs in the near
future , an audio recording would be useful for
evaluation ,
The s/n indication is a
average value of the received frame , with the
'Margin' being the amount of signal over the
'limit of resolution'
so at the lower levels its
quite possible a % of the data was under the
threshold , low level decodes are rarely 100% crc ,
but it is a
live 'rtty' mode, structured
for data rate V s/n , at levels of -30 > -33dB
average it is predictable there will be a level of
corruption ?
Tnx all - G..
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: LF: ros
John & All,
Apparently the latest ROS version v6.6.9 has been changed to prevent beacon
mode stopping when other signals encountered.
73, Gary - G4WGT.
On 2 September 2011 06:39, John GM4SLV
<[email protected]>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 15:45:19 -0800
Laurence KL7UK <
[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> KL7UK now ROS 500kHz for the night
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>
>
ROS is NOT the mode for
this sort of test!
I came to the shack at 05:15 UTC to find the regular
beaconing had
stopped running. Apparently if a signal is received the
software stops
any beacon (to avoid causing QRM) and in this instance it
didn't restart
the beacon timer afterwards - therefore my log shows that at
23:34 UTC
there was a (not correctly decoded) RX frame, and after that no
further
beacons were sent.
Sorry.
WSPR would seem to be the
mode for finding an opening, not ROS,
I won't be using it again in
anger. I find as a QSO mode it is very
ponderous, which I can accept for
the ability to resolve signals deep
in the noise, inaudible even, but it
didn't seem to perform very well in
the presence of lightning QRN -
requiring signals to be audible before
it decoded them.
On top of
that I find the actual software to be very difficult to
drive. As Mal
pointed out, the continuous appearance if spots &
information of
activity on every other band is very annoying, and
seemingly can't be
turned off. The Beacon functionality is seriously
flawed for the use we put
it to. The secret nature of the modem means
no one else can integrate ROS
into existing (more user friendly)
software (fldigi, multipsk
etc).
The PSKreporter spot-collecting website, while a laudable
project, is
no way as usable as the WSPRNet online database, which makes
finding
and tabulating reception reports more difficult.
I'll stick
with WSPR for beaconing, which is what it was intended for,
and look into
other MFSK modes for QSOs.
Anyone interested in some MFSK-4 tests over
the
weekend?
Cheers,
John
GM4SLV
