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Re: LF: test message

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Subject: Re: LF: test message
From: qrss <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 22:43:52 +0100
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>A Breakfast or Tea time message is Start - followed by 3 tones with 12 possible tones per unit =1728 posibilities - >followed by a Repeat - followed by the same 3 tones again - followed by Idle.

Make that 10 possible x 10 x 10 = 1000 of course, 2 tones are excluded.

On 09/05/2011 22:34, qrss wrote:
Just a little more information on the way I am reading ZEVS G3WCD and me are 'singing from the same hymn sheet'

There appear to be 12 tones.
7 is Idle or Start tone
1 is Repeat or Space tone

A Breakfast or Tea time message is Start - followed by 3 tones with 12 possible tones per unit =1728 posibilities - followed by a Repeat - followed by the same 3 tones again - followed by Idle.

The repeat gives error detection / correction in the one way messaging system. I used it this morning when the complete message unit 5 was corrupted and looked like a tone 3, closer examination confirmed there was a tone 1 in the correct. expected, place.

Note I could be completely wrong.

73 Eddie G3ZJO
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On 09/05/2011 21:26, wolf_dl4yhf wrote:
Hi Eddie,

You wrote:
Did you ever put numbers to the data units?

080905.jpg is familiar to us as a breakfast or tea time 3 unit code, reading 6,11,12

0080906jpg is more complex 3,8,6 - 6,8 ---- 9,11,10 - 12,4

This has confirmed some as yet unused (unseen by me) data units which I had surmised were there and useable.

I didn't try to 'see' anything there, I am not even sure how many different 'tones' they actually send. But it doesn't seem that much, only a few bits per symbol.

The filenames use the date in ISO 8601 format, which I often use for temporary filenames.. YYMMDD . With a full year number, the dates were 2008-09-05 and 2008-09-06. Not sure if the timescale was in UTC or local time back then (but compare this with Markus' post, the schedule seems to be the same still). I don't remember what happened on September 6, 2008, why they sent so many 'data bits' around and after noon. It's a pity my recording ends before the transmitter switched back to the 82 Hz idle tone on that day.

73,
  Wolf .









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