Alan,

> Jurgen a lot of the list quoted are well out of date. Dont assume because a
> station is quoted that it actually exists on that frequency. GBR and GBZ
> closed years ago and the aerials were demolished. Work the other way see

The problem with pages like http://www.vlf.it/trond2/15-20khz.html is that I 
don't know how old they are. And more confusing that GBR is listed as "actrive"

MWLIST seems to be more accurate, it doesn't list GBR anymore.
How do guys see MWLIST, is it more up-to-date in the VLF range?

> what you can hear and then try and identify the stations  Your should see
> around 5 or 6 stations between 17 and 24 kHz. One of the best checks used to
> be the WWWL lighning sites but our local in Shefield seems to have reduced

What are those sites?

 
> Remember that many of the "signals" heard in this frequency area are due to
> badly designed or manufactured domestic equipment, in your or your
> neighbours houses.

Yes I know that, I'm an engineer, and treat this always with sceptism. 
But my antenna is in a rural area, only our house is the closest, and I know 
most of the potential noise sources. But there's always something new to 
discover. :-)



Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
hor. Antennas: 11-ele 45-87MHz 13-ele Band-III, 48-ele UHF, FM: 15.11 
TV: Winradio G305 / Fly2000 + video noise filter & variable IF BW
FM: Downconverter + Perseus + Speclab as WFM demod.
MW: staggered 300m Beverage 320°,  30 x 4m EWE 320°, Winradio & Perseus
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