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LF: RE: VLF QRP Earth mode: 5.1km DX tonight / Plastic pipes

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Subject: LF: RE: VLF QRP Earth mode: 5.1km DX tonight / Plastic pipes
From: "James Moritz" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:59:11 +0100
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Dear Roger, LF Group,

Also, you do wonder with the network of gas pipes, water pipes, electricity pylons, phone lines etc criss-crossing vast swathes of countryside just how far "utility assisted" (for the want of a better term) earth mode VLF comms
could travel.

VLF signal propagation via utility pipes and cables is widely used by contractors as a method for pipe and cable location, and there has been equipment commercially available for many years - see for example the quite informative brochure at http://www.radiodetection.com/doclib/RDTheoryManual_complete08_en.pdf

The equipment comprises a detector, which can detect magnetic fields due to mains frequencies, ambient signals from VLF utilities that couple to buried conductors, or a VLF or audio signal from a "Genny" low-power transmitter unit which can be directly or inductively coupled to the buried conductor.

I'm told by people who use these things that plastic pipes are supposed to be installed with a tracer wire to make location easier, but this doesn't always happen ... different buried conductors can also couple to each other, and wild goose chases are apparently not unusual!

I don't know about buried conductors, but overhead telephone and power lines are the norm around my QTH, and when I have made mobile field strength measurements there have certainly been observable effects on 136k and 500k signals. In particular, overhead lines that are aligned in a radial direction from the transmitter produce peaks and nulls in the apparent field strength when the measuring receiver is close to them, corresponding to a standing wave pattern along the line. This means you have to be quite careful about choosing sites to make FS measurements - there seems to be much less effect when the overhead line is at right angles to the direction of the transmitter. However, the overall results of the FS measurements indicate that this kind of coupling only has a very localised effect near to the coupled conductor - it certainly does not seem to enhance the overall radiated signal at these frequencies, although VLF might well be different.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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