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Re: LF: Re: DK7FC's 3rd VLF transmission

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: DK7FC's 3rd VLF transmission
From: Stefan Schäfer <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:18:27 +0100
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Very nice! 0,8m*0,8m is really practicable and easy to built for everyone. Not expensive too... And our distance is 655km, well above the garden ;-) I do not even see a too big difference in S/N compared to Pauls signal (sure, the distance is 200km less)... So i am very confident that there will be some QSOs when further TX stns come up!

Jim, what about the effect of your band filter? Gives this a significant S/N improvement on 8,97? Can you show us 2 pics of an overview, say from 0...20kHz, with and without the filter? Would be interesting!

What do you think about active E-field antennas? I think i will try such one the next time using my much liked BF862 and a simple band pass filter, just like in your preamp. I got the idea that i can watch my own signal receiving here in Heidelberg. Maybe i can even put up such a grabber... The distance from my hill to Heidelberg will be a good 50km so it is a moderate distance, a good starting point for testing E-field antennas...

BTW: The next time i will get my new "office antenna", here in the 7th floor of the building of the institute of environmental physics in Heidelberg. It will be a horizontal wire, abt 60m long and 25m up! And with a good earth! This will be a good antenna for LF :-) I plan to key the PA via a laser beam from the roof of my flat, just over the city ;-) Maybe going to infrared ;-) There, on this roof of the institute, i can arrange such a VLF antenna... Will see :-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC



Am 23.03.2010 11:34, schrieb James Moritz:
Dear Stefan, LF Group,

...>Jim, M0BMU is the 2nd best DX distance! Jim, can you describe you RX detailed, pse. Or have i forgotten an older mail? What was the new /p QTH? And what are your observations about the change of QRM?...

I was very pleased to be able to see a signal at my first serious attempt... I have attached the current schematic of the preamp/filter used on Sunday.

The receive site was about 5km east of my normal QTH, I think the locator is IO91WR, but I'll check the exact coordinates.

The /P site had considerably less man-made QRM than my home QTH. The odd 31.5Hz/5Hz spectral lines seen at home were completely absent, but considerable 50Hz harmonics were present, due to nearby overhead power lines. But these did not really cause a problem on Sunday, and I think a noise-cancelling antenna arrangement would be feasible in a future test.

...>BTW: We could philosophize what is the definition for "DX" on LF and VLF! Or is there a standard definition? In my ham licence i learned that on HF, DX is outside the own continent and on VHF it is above 300km. So, what is it for LF? And what for VLF (by hams)?...

I think on HF nowadays, DX just means stations with unusual callsigns. On VLF, it probably should mean distances beyond those normally achieved - which means just about any distance at all!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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