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Re: LF: MOFMT

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Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:17:10 +0100
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Ok Peter ,
 
Well there is not much of a way round the  situation ...if you  do a site survey with a portable  rx and look for the  quietest spot for the  antenna , that may help , you  don't need too much of a ae for  rx purposes  ....from what you  say , your  are in the  open anyway ?sounds like a case of  water water everywhere  and not a drop to  drink !
can you  set up a remote location and  run the  cables under the  ground ?
 
As the  noise is a sort of uniform distributed 'noise' then I'm sure it would be possible to  programme a noise reducing software that simply summed multiple passes of the  signal and used a sort of  addition to recover the   data ok it  would  have a delay , but so what ..only  problem is finding someone who can code it ...I ran a recoding of a low cw signal  through the  noise filter of 'soundforge-9' and was just left with a cw signal .. so it  can be done ...
 
Height may help as well , if you can get the  active part of the  antenna as high as possible and away from the  buildings  that may reduce the  level
 
Its a pity we don't have one of these for  500 > http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/ ..
 
Ok on the  rtty  , well 100 % copy  on rtty  with  Chris is a relatively  new thing, before is was quite a slog to  get the message over !
 
good luck
 
G .
 
nb - have  you  tried using  wide band  filters .. back all the  gains off , will not  suffer from ringing as much .. I use my  ws18 head phones for  cw  hihi
 

From: M0FMT
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT

Ok Graham thanks for the info.
 
If it was on the same frquency that was probably Dennis and me. We've been on for abt an hour ...hee. Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it is just raising the noise floor it is very subtle not really identifiable like say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants help a bit but not as sensitive at the LW by a mile. I use everything SDR software to niose blank and is filtering down to 200hz and Xtal filters on my Kenwood TS690s which has all the filters.  Its very depressing. I took my DC rx around to Chris XIZ abt 6miles away and I could hear you on RTTY the other day a smashing signal. I have a similar ant set up I have a higher ASL and I am in open fields about 1/2 to a mile from the rest of humanity but still have noise....dohh!!!
 
Any way gl Graham and thanks for the reports. Things will be picking up now with the season change so hope to hear you for a twoway on 500kc/s soon.
 
73 petefmt
 
--- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Graham <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 3:36 PM

Ok Peter
 
Should of given you a cal then but was using the  ft897  at the  time , with no  tx on 500 , good signal at the time , odd  for mid  day ? some  cw on at the moment 1530 bst , but  quite  low .. may be the same tx ... noise level on the  rx is showing s8 to  s9 all day .... across the  full band, interestingly  the  dsp noise reduction in the ft897
actually  helps ..  must be the  right kind of noise ...
 
As for the  rx .. well in a direct test , swopping from the  ft897 and the  ra1778m , the  ft897 was  giving a better  recovery of the  signal .. which is a bit disconcerting .. may be the  wrong type of noise for the 1778 xtal filters (1.4 mhz and do tend to  ring a bit if  pinged) , but iv'e had a few replies lately  where I could not  resolve the  other station, I think mainly  due to  the  high level of  noise a the  qth
 
73 Graham
 
 

From: M0FMT
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT

Thanks Graham
 
Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try to have a qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch hour and again later around 4:00 it is a very loose sched with M0JXM Dennis and rarely M0KHW.Ken.  Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is remarkable and reports by e-mail because I can't hear him its my RX or location (adsl noise?) that is poor but we should be reciprical.
 
FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled GW3UEP (ala UK500kHZ group) this week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts output to a lw up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a big hammer.
 
73 petefmt

--- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Graham <[email protected]>
Subject: LF: MOFMT
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM

M0FMT ,Good   569 from the  35  ft  vertical (with atu ) ft897-d speaker at 1200  bst to  day , normal speed  cw , beacon or  live cq call  ?
 
Graham
 
G0NBD  /. io83lk



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