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LF: Re: TIL Grabber back online...

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Subject: LF: Re: TIL Grabber back online...
From: "DEREK ATTER" <derek.atter@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:15:58 -0000
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Hi Scott,

I have carried out a number of tests on the MiniWhip cct. and like you, I found that at +12V DC supply there were signs of inter-mod products - such as weak phantom broadcast stations just below 400kHz which should not be there
At +15 and above, they pretty well dissappear.  I also then tweaked the 
values of the 2.2K/10K potential divider feeding the base of the 2N5109 to 
drop the base voltage a bit because with the original values, the 
collector-base voltage was only about +2V which is not really enough I 
think. I was also using about 150ft of 50 ohm RG58U coax to the shack from 
the garden but with hind sight, I think it woiuld be better to have used 
70ohm feeder to reduce the capacitive load on the emitter of the 2N5109 and 
probably insert a 70 ohm series resistor at the emitter to provide a better 
source impedance for the cable and help absorb reflections back down the 
line although wouild incur a 6dB signal loss.
I have had to take my MiniWhip down temporarily due to building work on a 
conservatory at the back of the house, but I intend to return to the subject 
when all the mess is cleared away!! I still think it is very neat design and 
mechanically simpler than the AMRAD design.
73  de  Derek Atter G3GRO

PS - I seem to remember that the Royal Navy used to employ an RX antenna multi-coupler using several 807 tetrodes years ago!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Tilley" <sthed475@telus.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:56 PM
Subject: LF: TIL Grabber back online...


After an epic struggle with my miniwhip I discovered that it likes a much higher input voltage then documented in the construction article...
Running it at around 17V seems to clear up the intermod problem.

So the grabber is back up.
http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/

73 Scott








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