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LF: Re: Re: LOOPS V VERTICALS

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Subject: LF: Re: Re: LOOPS V VERTICALS
From: "Vernall" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:23:04 +1200
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Hi all,
 
At Quartz Hill we have similar observations to Steve, in that we have not noticed a fade using the tx antenna for rx, but we have noticed fades on loop antennas.  Temporary one turn receiving loops were supported by ropes to poles in suitable directions for receiving the DX station, and the area was large enough that QRN swamped the receiver noise.  The loops were in the vertical plane and fed at a bottom coner closest to the operating room.  There is no QRM at the rural Quartz Hill site so the large tx antenna can deliver a good result (that is definitely not the case in my suburban QTH, neighbourhood QRM is quite a challenge, my top loaded vertical for tx is hopeless on rx).  But getting back to the theme of rx loops versus verticals, I can say there have been unexplained loss of reception from a loop when the vertical delivers a satisfactory result.  At Quartz Hill (ZM2E) we no longer use a loop for LF rx, instead we have a splitter and feed all receivers from the tx antenna (a changeover switch prevents use from having a very short distance contact).
 
73, Bob ZL2CA 
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Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:32 AM
Subject: LF: Re: LOOPS V VERTICALS

>Your comments on the smaller verts/loops welcome.
 
Mal - during our last TransPacific tests with ZL, we had the opportunity to run two rx's on the ZL frequency. One was our mainstay and always reliable performer, the large 10' air-core tuned passive loop while the other was our large vertical tx antenna. The ZL signal was often 'O' copy on the vertical while the loop showed nothing at all. I think there was only one short instance when the loop produced a signal that the vertical did not hear. The loop had previously earned our respect as an excellent rx antenna because we had always used it in our own noisier environments but beside the ocean on Pender Island, there was no noise at all, and the loop quickly lost it's main advantage. Both Scott and I have since been using our tx verticals on rx at our home stations more often, when the noise level permits and the verticals are clearly better, when noise is not a factor.
 
BTW, our next TransPacific ZM2E-VA7LF attempt is fast approaching...April 3-5th our time.
 
73
Steve / VE7SL
 
Web: "THE VE7SL RADIO NOTEBOOK" at   http://www.imagenisp.ca/jsm
 
 
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