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141. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 22:21:16 +0000
Is there anyone in VK equipped to receive coherent? You'll need longer symbols and therefore a longer message duration. Will the phase remain stable for long enough without a GPS lock on the oscillat
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00016.html (10,590 bytes)

142. Re: AW: LF: 8270 Hz traces again! AK (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 22:23:22 +0000
Got a good carrier from you http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml#p=1448996400&b=090&s=sp and this decoded easily in EbNaut using 10 second symbols, eg 8K19A 2 characters, found rank 7: ** ps [ 2 30 30
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00017.html (10,741 bytes)

143. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 07:46:02 +0000
No way to guess suitable code settings without prior experience or a measurement. I recommend a 3 hour carrier, GPS locked tx and rx to get hopefully a spike on a spectrum in 92 uHz. Measure S/N and
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00020.html (10,846 bytes)

144. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - Dec. 1/2 (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 15:09:47 +0000
Given a 3 hour VO/VK window, http://abelian.org/ebnaut/calc.php?sndb=15&snbws=92e-6&code=16K21&sp=10&L=1&nc=5&submit=1 http://abelian.org/ebnaut/calc.php?sndb=12.5&snbws=92e-6&code=16K21&sp=12.5&L=1&
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00023.html (12,274 bytes)

145. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - Dec. 1/2 (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 21:56:58 +0000
... indicates that it takes 4.66 hours for one window. You don't need a spectrogram, just a single 3 hour spectrum. Both ends would need GPSDO and also PPS at the rx soundcard. And even then we don't
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00033.html (11,689 bytes)

146. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - Dec. 1/2 (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 22:46:40 +0000
I ran last night's signal through vtmatch. First I retrieve 14 hours of signal and mix down to baseband I/Q at 100 samples/sec. vtread -T2015-12-01_19:00,2015-12-02_09:00 /raw | vtmult -f 2777 | # 13
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00036.html (12,847 bytes)

147. Re: LF: Decode EbNaut and thrash a PC (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2015 14:39:47 +0000
If you have a rubidium oscillator, then use it. But if buying, then I'd suggest a GPSDO because they're often cheaper, you don't have to worry about calibration, and it also gives you a PPS for your
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00047.html (10,007 bytes)

148. Re: LF: Decode EbNaut and thrash a PC (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2015 20:56:34 +0000
vtmatch passes all its tests now. The next release of vlfrx-tools isn't ready yet but the latest vtmatch is at http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/vtmatch.c which you can just drop into the build directory an
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00057.html (9,930 bytes)

149. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - Dec. 3/4 (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 14:01:27 +0000
VO1NA 2015-12-03/04 8K19A 0.5S 39C QRO start Eb/N0 BER rank 20:00 11.6 3.8% 0 20:30 10.6 5.8% 0 21:00 6.4 16.6% 0 21:30 7.3 14.1% 0 22:00 15.2 0.4% 0 22:30 15.9 0.2% 0 23:00 7.2 14.2% 0 23:30 13.8 1.
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00069.html (11,898 bytes)

150. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - Dec. 3/4 (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 18:38:09 +0000
A plot of the daytime correlation of I/Q against the known encoded message http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/151204a.gif shows significant spikes with each half-hour message, up to 14:00. Only the first two
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00075.html (11,882 bytes)

151. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - Dec. 3/4 (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:15:23 +0000
At 20:00 and 20:30 I only got carrier. It decoded well with 131 chars and 0.2S symbols, Eb/N0 = 1.7 but no modulation. Looks like ebkey is limited to 5000 symbols and this one needs 6560. I've modifi
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00082.html (11,854 bytes)

152. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - "Invalid message length" (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:49:05 +0000
I just made a 0.3f with increased limit. It'll probably do something bad with the user interface but the logfile might cope. http://abelian.org/ebnaut/software_ms.shtml -- Paul Nicholson --
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00086.html (11,275 bytes)

153. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - Dec. 3/4 (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 22:12:58 +0000
For some reason, you're still running the earlier version. ebkey -? gives you the version. Check the execution path and the gcc -o option. That might be about 3dB too weak. I made a spectrogram of on
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00089.html (12,713 bytes)

154. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - Dec. 3/4 (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 22:18:19 +0000
Joe, Copied your 131 char 4K19A 0.2S 21:00 message fine, Eb/N0=7.2 and I think that's a record for message length but not for capacity. -- Paul Nicholson --
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00091.html (11,737 bytes)

155. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - Dec. 3/4 (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 22:30:12 +0000
Something taking up your RAM, the decoder needs 3.8 Gbytes for this one which should fit ok. The 4K19A 0.2S signal is much stronger than I expected and decodes easily with uniform phase. We're stret
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00092.html (12,123 bytes)

156. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - Dec. 3/4 (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 23:20:03 +0000
The timing of these 0.2S messages appears to be spot on, I'm getting about a 10mS lag which would be roughly the propagation delay. So far, VO1NA 2015-12-04/05 4K19A 0.2S 131C QRO start Eb/N0 BER ran
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00093.html (12,107 bytes)

157. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - TA slot (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2015 00:51:57 +0000
Yes a huge signal tonight in Europe from VO1NA. I'll leave it to you guys to choose a frequency. VO1NA 2015-12-04/05 4K19A 0.2S 131C QRO start Eb/N0 BER rank 22:00 7.2 5.7% 0 22:30 7.0 6.2% 0 23:00 4
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00098.html (11,500 bytes)

158. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - TA slot (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2015 11:36:39 +0000
How about a daytime test with, as a starting point, say Message: VO1NA Chars: 5 Symbols: 5 seconds Coding: 16K21A Duration: 5280 seconds, 01:28:00.00 -- Paul Nicholson --
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00102.html (10,910 bytes)

159. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - TA slot (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2015 13:15:35 +0000
VO1NA 2015-12-04/05 4K19A 0.2S 131C QRO start Eb/N0 BER rank phase xcor 22:00 7.2 5.7% 0 87.0 0.44 22:30 7.0 6.2% 0 75.6 0.38 23:00 4.6 12.1% 0 56.3 0.28 23:30 no decode 78.7 0.22 00:00 9.0 2.6% 0 69
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00104.html (13,468 bytes)

160. Re: LF: More EbNaut 137.777 - TA slot (score: 1)
Author: Paul Nicholson <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2015 15:05:51 +0000
Looks like I chose about the right settings for daytime: found rank 10968: VO1NA ps [ 2 30 30 30 30] re-encode 425/1056 ber 4.02e-01 Es/N0=-15.1 Eb/N0=0.4 and the phase appears steady for the 90 minu
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2015-12/msg00107.html (11,350 bytes)


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