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301. RE: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 16:19:28 -0700
Paul, With each piece of data (your NAA/WH2XBA 3-day amplitude below) this becomes more interesting. Summarizing some previous discussion and thoughts: NAA amplitude and phase are stable and repeatab
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00254.html (16,570 bytes)

302. RE: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 18:47:21 -0700
"Antenna current is essentially constant during the transmission with negligible tuning adjustments" "Some little shift of phase and amplitude of the modes involved, altering the interference pattern
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00255.html (16,558 bytes)

303. RE: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 01:18:10 -0700
Alan, Good point regarding a possible additive process that could disproportionately affect a small signal; and I agree with all of your points regarding phase, and add that the repeatability of NAA
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00256.html (20,126 bytes)

304. RE: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 16:37:39 -0700
Paul, Thank you for the data and analysis. The WH2XBA/1 and WH2XBA/1 - NAA phase and amplitude plots are fascinating. Thanks to you and Bob for providing this valuable information (and great SNR!). T
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00258.html (18,174 bytes)

305. RE: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 01:36:47 -0700
Bob, Some information below on the effects of above-freezing and below-freezing temperatures on various VLF losses, including (a) ground-wave losses, (b) near-field ground effects losses and (c) skyw
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00261.html (31,080 bytes)

306. RE: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 05:27:11 -0700
Markus, I found a typo: At 30kHz, ground-wave loss in non-frozen soil of poor conductivity (10^-4 mhos/m) might be 20dB greater (20dB more loss) than in non-frozen soil of fairly good conductivity (1
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00263.html (42,287 bytes)

307. RE: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 05:16:31 -0700
Clemens, Not necessarily; two possibilities come immediately to mind: trapped surface wave and a change in the modal interference pattern (from phase changes due to ice and/or frozen soil, a change i
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00264.html (16,201 bytes)

308. RE: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 05:13:36 -0700
Markus, Thank you for the feedback. I have a feeling that with discussion, the group might make particularly quick progress on electrically short VLF antennas for long-range paths. It&#8217;s an area
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00265.html (39,218 bytes)

309. RE: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 06:05:05 -0700
Dumb question but just in case: was the quick phase change of 120 degrees corrected prior to integration? Jim AA5BW I think the propagation at 29.5 has changed, even though NAA looks normal at 24kHz.
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00266.html (16,051 bytes)

310. RE: LF: New OPERA OP/OPDS 2H tonight on 27.945 Dial Freq... (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 14:43:33 -0700
Yes Markus, By some calculations, Bob&#8217;s signal is close* to being detectable 24/7 at Todmorden and often during daylight at your QTH, for the next two weeks or so. A 24-hour opportunity in Apri
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00275.html (31,885 bytes)

311. RE: LF: New OPERA OP/OPDS 2H tonight on 27.945 Dial Freq... (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 15:16:08 -0700
Markus, I&#8217;m glad that you suggested a 2-hour time slot (if it works for Bob). Based on your NAA spectrogram (attached), the window that you&#8217;re shooting for may be a multimode interference
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00278.html (35,560 bytes)

312. RE: LF: New OPERA OP/OPDS 2H tonight on 27.945 Dial Freq... ? (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 16:51:28 -0700
Bob, Rob Moore at the University of Florida has a wide network of VLF receivers in continuous operation. He would like to look for your signal tonight. I told him you'd be on 29499.0, is that correct
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00279.html (14,425 bytes)

313. RE: LF: New OPERA OP/OPDS 2H tonight on 27.945 Dial Freq... ? (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 17:46:40 -0700
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00281.html (17,818 bytes)

314. RE: LF: New OPERA OP/OPDS 2H tonight on 27.945 Dial Freq... (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 01:28:52 -0700
Markus, This is a welcome sight. Thanks to you and Bob. Was this detection made approximately ten minutes before Bob switched off? 73, Jim AA5BW From: [email protected] [mailto:owner
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00282.html (16,601 bytes)

315. RE: LF: New OPERA OP/OPDS 2H tonight on 27.945 Dial Freq... (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 12:57:36 -0700
Bob and Markus, Thanks, this seems consistent with the shape of the late-night/early-morning amplitude characteristic in the LWPC simulation (for 43N, 75W to Todmorden) that Paul sent to the group on
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00286.html (25,492 bytes)

316. RE: LF: QRSS 120 on 29.499 starts 2200...and NAA (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:45:32 -0700
Laurence, Very interesting plots. An eyeball-average of day signal strength compared to and eyeball-average of night signal strength seems like ~ +11dB (day to night) for the 12Mm NWC path, and ~ +8d
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00297.html (15,433 bytes)

317. RE: LF: Re: U.S. VLF License WH2XBA (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 02:07:43 -0500
Your data seems generally consistent with Bob's intended switch-on time: in an early message he said he was switching off to go to dinner, and *intended* to switch back on at 2330. Jim I don't know t
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00311.html (15,318 bytes)

318. RE: LF: Re: U.S. VLF License WH2XBA (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 01:22:15 -0500
Paul, Great data as always. I don't know the to-from polarity of your phase measurement; but: the slope of phase change and the slope inflection point at 04:30 look generally consistent with what the
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00312.html (14,943 bytes)

319. RE: LF: Re: U.S. VLF License WH2XBA (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 03:32:37 -0500
Paul, Thanks for great data and analysis. Comment 1: based on a best-guess loose extrapolation from Davies (Ionospheric Radio) pp 382-383, the phase slope and total phase shift shown in your measurem
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00313.html (16,138 bytes)

320. RE: LF: Re: U.S. VLF License WH2XBA (score: 1)
Author: "hvanesce" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 00:07:14 -0500
! Bob, how accurate is your frequency calibration? Jim AA5BW There is a strong signal received Todmorden UK 53.7N,2.07W at 29499.000 +/- 0.01 Hz. Begins around 00:30 UT +/- 15 mins and continues. Ver
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2014-03/msg00320.html (13,056 bytes)


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