Re: Re: Re: Re: LF: MF/160

["dhchurch"<dhchurch@lineone.net>]

Hello Andy

 

I have too many RF sensitive wires coming into the shack, bad practice but there's no space to do anything much about it. I've had an idea about an absurdly simple ripple reduction PSU circuit which I'll try this week. The trouble with retirement is that there seems no hurrry to get things done.

 

73

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From: Andy Talbot

Receiver: rsgb_lf_group

Time: 2017-10-23, 20:20:13

Subject: Re: Re: Re: LF: MF/160

I don't knoe why radio amateurs are so anti SMPSU on principle.　 　

Unfiltered nasty Chinese ones may be bad, but anything can be cleaned up.　　

My 50 Volt 20A one I use with teh 475kHz PA is absolutely quiet, not a whisper detectable on any frequency from LF to HF

'jnt

On 23 October 2017 at 20:07, dhchurch <dhchurch@lineone.net> wrote:

Hello Andy　

　

The idea of using any SMPS in, or near, the shack　is somewhat abhorrent. It is possible to introduce a series circuit in a linear PSU which is not exactly a regulator but has a hum cancellation circuit, something that used to appear in an ancient National Semiconductor publication. I'd love to try it but just haven't left any room in my PSUs, they're stuffed full, including a cooling fan. A couple of 100Hz side bands are at least predictable, my PA has, 　but there is one regular transmission on LF which has all manner of spurii making reception here somewhat variable.

　

I think Dave, GW8GLO, has a system which promptly knocks off his transmitter SMPS when going into Rx mode, maybe this is the way to go.

　

73, Hugh, M0DSZ

　

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From: Andy Talbot

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Time: 2017-10-23, 10:12:17

Subject: Re: Re: LF: MF/160

Its a difficult call - I have a similar problem with my 700 Watt 137kHz Tx.　 　30dB hum sidebands corresponds to 3% ripple, which in the main scheme of things is not that much.　 　It would need an enormous reservoir capacitor to make a serious reduction.　　

Either that or design the Tx to run from 50V and use a SMPSU instead of raw rectified AC

Andy　 G4JNT

On 23 October 2017 at 10:03, dhchurch <dhchurch@lineone.net> wrote:

Mal, I think a little attention should be paid to, perhaps, your power supply.　The 100Hz sidebands, as I recall from earlier this week, should be much lower in level. Seen on Spectrum Lab　at one stage, they were less than -30dB in comparative level.　

　

73, Hugh, M0DSZ

　

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From: Andy Talbot

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Time: 2017-10-22, 22:44:59

Subject: Re: LF: MF/160

You're so strong, Mal,　 I'm getting decodes on your hum sidebands

21:36　　G3KEV　　0.475804　　-27　　0　　IO94sh　　5　　G4JNT　　IO90iv　　384　　189　　2017-10-22 21:36　　G3KEV　　0.475704　　+3　　0　　IO94sh　　5　　G4JNT　　IO90iv　　384　　189　　2017-10-22 21:36　　G3KEV　　0.475604　　-29　　0　　IO94sh　　5　　G4JNT　　IO90iv　　384　　189　　2017-10-22 1

Andy　 　G4JNT

On 22 October 2017 at 19:25, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

NICE CONDX 160M THIS EVENING VK7DIK 　REPORTING G3KEV WSPR MODE

LOOKING GOOD FOR MF/630 M ALSO

TNX REPORT DE MAL/G3KEV

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

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