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RE: LF: Re: Hall Effect for Over-current shutdown?

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Subject: RE: LF: Re: Hall Effect for Over-current shutdown?
From: "Clemens Paul" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 21:42:37 +0200
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Hi Warren,

I know a German OM (RF engineer) who has recently implemented a hall sensor
for overcurrent shutdown for  his
home built 1KW short wave FET PA successfully.
I will ask him if he is willing to disclose his design and send it to you if
he agrees.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ 

 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] 
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Warren Ziegler
>Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 9:07 PM
>To: rsgb_lf_group
>Subject: Re: LF: Re: Hall Effect for Over-current shutdown?
>
>Hi Alan,
>
>    I've modified the G0MRF amp with the M0BMU output 
>configuration, I'm using a 30V supply.
>The G0MRF uses a current sense resistor to shut down the amp 
>quickly in case too much current is being draw.
>I've modified the output transformer turns ratio to produce 
>more power at lower supply voltages (I'm using 500V, 55a FETs).
>However with the new higher currents and with a new 
>appropriate value sense resistor its developing a LOT of heat 
>(12 W or so) and needs to be heat-sinked.
>I'm thinking Hall-effect might be more efficient and produce 
>less heat - I'm pretty sure that others have used Hall effect 
>devices to protect MOSFET amplifier and I'm looking for circuit tips.
>
>73 & Tnx!
>Warren
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Alan Melia 
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>       
>       Ah interesting problem Warren.... why is it 
>over-current?? if it is over-current because a high voltage 
>has welded/melted a short between drain and source, then the 
>protection wont help ....high currents usually lead to excess 
>heating ......but what is the real cause? If you really need 
>DC supply protection would not a high-side current monitor be 
>easier/faster??? The problem then could be there is enough 
>energy stored in the PA choke to zap the FET before, or even 
>if, you can disconnect the supply.
>        
>       OK drive fails permanently on might be a condition it 
>would protect the FETs against with DC coupled drive
>        
>       Alan G3NYK
>
>               ----- Original Message ----- 
>               From: Warren Ziegler <mailto:[email protected]>  
>               To: rsgb_lf_group 
><mailto:[email protected]>  
>               Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 7:15 PM
>               Subject: LF: Hall Effect for Over-current shutdown?
>
>               Anyone using a Hall effect device for 
>overcurrent sensing and shutdown in a MOSFET amplifer?
>               
>
>               -- 
>               73 Warren K2ORS
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