Re: LF: 477 A local SSB chat band ?

[M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>]

Hi All

As I said before the Genie is well and truly out of the bottle. While we debate the issue take a listen.

Laws and Diktats are only obeyed if there is a sanction. There are no sanctions, so much better to engender a way of doing things by example and common purpose. 

 

The point about acres of space on space on VHF is true but the channelisation of the those frequencies has a lot to do with the barrenness. If you read my comments about 4m where locally a very large number of people had converted PMR kit and were Xtaled up for 70.45 and Sunday mornings it was joy. Then a certain organisation with its "Vogon" like tick the box mentality balls it all up with a band plan that in short time killed that activity stone dead. Oh we now have parrot repeaters and more planned. No body ever dives into an el cheapo pmr box and learns a bit. Or even understands the band of fast rising s9+ FM signals on 70.45  which was the local chat qrg and watering hole out to Croatia. Just imagine up comes S52XYZ oh please qsy by that time he's gone heard it happen. Sorry to bang on but prescriptive control stifles invention not just technical but operating ingenuity.

 

And this may dismay you all, AM is being used on 472 / 479 as we speak! No call signs no pack drill.

 

Just got my xtal for 472.5 this morning so about to play with that waggly thing if any one can read me being an old GAIT.

 

73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Friday, 4 January 2013, 11:06
Subject: Re: LF: 477 A local SSB chat band ?

In that  short SSB   test  , it was quit  evident  that  the  propagation  characteristics  of the   band , assumedly in  terms  of  ground  wave  are  actually  quite   unique  and offer   very  good  short  to  medium   range 

 

Running  100  watts  to  a  40 x 70- ft  inv L on 1.8 MHz  would  not  at  1300z   be received  at  S9  at  a range  of  100  miles , or  at  25  for  that  matter , 

 

In this  context , it  would appear that  , though  technically challenging   ( at the  moment)  ssb  operations  on  MF are  quite  possible  and  effective , as would any  other   audio  b/w  mode , noting  the  power / bandwidth  distribution being  very  low  compared to  single  carrier  modes , 100 watts  produced  quite  acceptable   results 

 

As for  lunacy  well  that's  a  matter of  opinion  , there  are  very  few  that  actually  have a  certificate  to  prove there   sane  , I did  note the band  appeared to of  been  released  at  a  full  moon  , coincidence of  course !

 

G..

 

      

 

From: Chris

Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:49 AM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Subject: Re: LF: 477 A local SSB chat band ?

Hi Colin,

Not too sure what you're getting at. We all have our individual interests. I hope you're not suggesting the new band should only be used by obsessive DX CW only enthusiasts?

Chris, G4AYT.

----- Original Message -----

From: M5FRA - Colin

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:24 AM

Subject: Re: LF: 477 A local SSB chat band ?

Just a thought.....when it gets totally washed out with SSB all 24 hours how are you going to clean it out? People in general dont follow gentlemen's agreements they were not party too.....and "it doesnt say I cant in the licence".

I fear that, though what you suggest would work, it might encourage mayhem.

I agree with Alan. What is wrong with top band for local chats? Or the acres of unused space on 2m or 70cms? To consider using any form of SSB on 630m just because it might be technically feasible if sheer lunacy. IMHO it would kill the band for other modes and the potential for QRM to other users will be high.  As an ex G8 who learned Morse in spite of a chronic medical condition I would say just get on a do it. The rewards are well worth the effort. Or maybe effort is a dirty word?

 

Colin - G8FRA/M5FRA

 

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