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Re: LF: Fwd: Help needed, mechanical filters

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Subject: Re: LF: Fwd: Help needed, mechanical filters
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:16:53 +0100
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Is  that  series  or  parallel  |Z|  ?  Also  will  need  the  correct  parallel   capacitance
 
valve  cct  shows  the  anode  amps  passing  via  the filter  ?  odd  ? but if its  for  this  kind of  service , then  the  |Z| is  referring  to  anode  load  values , which are  not   'real'  but  complex
 
Data  sheet , cannot  read,    say  load  termination  |Z| or   terminate  with  Ohms ?
 
G.. 
 
 

Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 9:26 PM
Subject: LF: Fwd: Help needed, mechanical filters

4th try...

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Betreff: Help needed, mechanical filters
Datum: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:58:41 +0200
Von: Stefan Schäfer <[email protected]>
An: [email protected]


MF,

I have bought a mechanical filter which has a center frequency of 473 
kHz. It is available at 
http://www.oppermann-electronic.de/html/body_hf-spezialbauteile.html 
(scroll down to FZ 01 / FZ 02). I have both types and just measured the 
frequency response. There is a data sheet as well which states the 
impedances to be connected to the wires.
There is even a datasheet at 
http://www.oppermann-electronic.de/assets/applets/FZ_01.pdf

All in all it looks very interesting and the slopes are really very 
sharp. However there is a passband ripple of 10 dB which is very very 
high. See the image: 
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/MF/Mechanisches%20Filter%20473%20kHz.png

So what have i done wrong?  Or is it that bad?

The input signal is connected on the left side between the red and green 
wire. The output signal is taken from the right side on the red and 
green wire too. It looks as if each side has a coil on the green and red 
wire, with a tap at the yellow wire.
Helpful was this image from the web 
http://www.amateurfunkmuseum.de/AFM_321b-Dateien/image006.jpg which 
shows a similar filter. I have connected a resistor of 18 kOhm to the 
output and a 500 Ohm resistor in series to the signal generator, as 
stated in the datasheet. But the ripple does not change.

Any ideas or suggestions?

Guess for what i will need the filter! :-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC
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