Yes  , a  look round  the  station  in the  dark is recommended  HI

But , in saying that  , 500  looks quite  tame  compared  with  136 !
I think  the concept  of a  small  Ae on 500  was  lost  in the  early
day's , but  in reality, propagation  on 500  is  some what  better
than  160  and  using the  same  size  Ae's  , quite  reasonable
signals  can be  produced.

After  all  600  was the  first  HAM  band  , before  the  Marine
boys  took  it  over .. and are  still  reluctant to  give it  back !!

G..

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From: "Alan Melia" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:38 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: Re: RSGB Convention   MF side looks a  bit  thin ??

Hi Graham yes I know smallish aerials can be made to work with modern modes but you and Gary have worked quite hard at it.....and you do get a lot of RF

floating around the house when you have it near at hand :-))

Alan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" <[email protected]>

To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ??

Yes  happy days  , but then that's the   problem  with the  image  from
lower down  hi .  but as   many  EU and  other  , now  have a  500
allocation  , its not  quite the  outside  event  it once may of  been .

Ae  wise , well  that's  debatable  ,  I'v had good  results  from the

top

loaded 30  ft  inverted L  , in a   40  x  20  ft  back  garden , ok not
quite as good as  the   750  ft  wire  at FPR (now  down, only the  600

ft

delta loop left)  but  quite  acceptable  , perhaps  aided by  'data
processing'  but  +3 dB   on a  300  watt  amp  is  quite a few  amps ! ,
perhaps  a little  more green and safer to  slow  the  data  rate  .. !

As  for   136  , Gary  seems to  make  good  progress  with the  top

loaded

vert  , once again  a small   plot  Ae  ........

Fully  understand  the  'need to  beep' of those who  did or  can , but

each

to  his own ,

G..

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From: "Alan Melia" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:27 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: Re: RSGB Convention   MF side looks a  bit  thin ??

>
> Here again it requires someone to run it. In the old days at the

Beaumont

> there used to be an LF "workshop"  John Gould was an enthusiastic

chairman

> of the LF stream, but he has be clobbered with many more jobs these

days.

> Also because LF is basically homebrew equipment we had displays. I > think

> the
> main event has to be tailored to get a good attendance (to pay for the
> place) But the odd LF event has introduced new people to "our" side of

the

> hobby. Unfortunately 2 out of three always seemed to be flat dwellers > of

> had

> no garden of any size, and were put off by the size of the aerials. > :-))

> If
> Dave gets a good attendance maybe it will revive.
>
> Alan
>

> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" <[email protected]>

> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ??
>
>
>> Probably  not , but  fringe activity's  do  provide
>> a little  Variety : e.g.
>>
>> A  QRSS  university   some how  may  not have
>> 'quite'  the  same  appeal,  but  has the  same
>> aim ?
>>
>> G..
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Stewart Bryant" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 6:49 PM
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "Alan Melia" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: RSGB Convention   MF side looks a  bit  thin ??
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Is there any interest in a microwave round table style event
>> > on LF/MF?
>> >
>> > - Stewart/G3YSX
>> >
>> > On 05/10/2011 18:33, Alan Melia wrote:
>> >> I think it's like all these things Graham......it depends what

papers

> are
>> >> offered. If no-one offers any lectures you dont get a stream.
>> >>
>> >> Alan
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Graham"<[email protected]>
>> >> To:<[email protected]>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 5:30 PM
>> >> Subject: LF: RSGB Convention MF side looks a bit thin ??
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> RSGB Convention   MF side looks a  bit  thin ??  Is  there a  real
> HF/
>> >> MF/LF   convention   anywhere   ??
>> >>
>> >> Dave's  45  min slot  on the  Sunday looks to be  'it' ?
>> >>
>> >> Don't  mind  mini-waves  ...   just  a bit  like being  at  work

over

>> >> the
>> >> weekend .. !
>> >>
>> >> G..
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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>
>
>