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Re: LF: Re: My first ferrite experiments

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: My first ferrite experiments
From: Stefan Schäfer <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:42:42 +0200
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Hi Daniele,

Am 27.09.2011 17:15, schrieb Daniele Tincani:
Hello Stefan,
 
> but maybe the Q is reduced by the aluminium shield!
Do you think the aluminium could be the problem or the distance between the coil and the core?
The wire shouldn't wound directly on the rod. I have a PVC tube above the rod and so the wire is in a distance of about 3 mm to the rod. I used litz wire and got a Q of 485...

I could replace the aluminium tube with a plastic tube, if shielding is not necessary, but this would not improve the Q if the problem is the gap between the coil and the core.
Just experiment what is the best solution. But the aluminium shield - if used - should be thin and can be applied above the winding in some distance. I know you have much QRM at home so probably an E field shield makes sense here. Anyway you will be bothered by the local magnetic QRM of course.
I personally think that a shield is not necessary if you are /p and far away from man made noise. Then, a higher Q helps more than the shield and a Q of 30!

 
> Are the rods galvanically separated from each other by a thin plastic tape? What type is the ferrite material?
Yes I put two layers of plastic tape on tips of each rod. The ferrite material is russian MU400HH.
Fine! I also use the same ferrite type and 55 turns. Your cap is surely the best what you can use. So shorten the wires between L and C and measure the Q on 137 kHz. If it is still in the range of 30, i assume the shield causes high losses.
Another idea: There is some conducting spray available. Maybe this can help here? No experience with that, just a spontaneous idea...
http://it.farnell.com/_/kontakt-chemie-emv-35-200ml/rivestimento-conductive-emv-35/dp/220115



73, Stefan/DK7FC
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