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Re: LF: HE3OM in JA

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Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in JA
From: "mal hamilton" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:35:57 -0000
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Markus
If you can only produce a dot or a less and no ID  then it is time to QRO so that your transmission can be seen properly.
Do not  depend on an ID based on Frequency accuracy, it leads to gueswork.
And long slow transmissions with QSB  is a waste of time and meaningless, ie broken up dashes and impossible to ID
This has all been discussed before and concluded that slow prolonged dases/transmissions are useless.
With some effort and suitable power short sharp transmissions are preferable.
It seems to me in recent times we are covering the same old ground and making little or no headway.
So far I have heard/seen ONE German and one Austrian stn on VLF,  where are all the others that were so keen to TX.
 
G3KEV
 
 
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Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in JA

Congratulations to Kuni and Toni, and thanks Mike for sorting out the relevant screenshots.
 
Yes faster modes may give a powerful station a better chance to get a complete message across. Already on Monday evening, dots from HE3OM have definitely been identified on the JA7NI grabber while it was running in 84 mHz "QRSS-10" resolution.
 
But for the likes of ourselves who are able to produce a marginal SNR at best, I think the only option is trying to produce a few traces at 90 seconds or slower modes.
 
Best regards, and good luck to all,
 
Markus (DF6NM)
 

Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 11:30 AM
Subject: LF: HE3OM in JA

Last night HE3OM put a good signal into JA7NI's grabber at JA dawn..
UA4WPF can also be seen, but much weaker than previously. See
attached.

Also attached is the same time on RN3AGC's grabber which shows that
DF6NM and myself were also calling, but we could not compete with
HE3OM's ERP which I estimate as 15-20dB up on us.

The JA picture also supports my theory that QRS120 is not a practical
speed for real DX. There are long periods where the signal is well
above the noise, but QSB prevents the whole callsign being received.
At that strength, QRS30 would probably have still been viable and
allowed a couple of full calls to be read.

Congratulations to HE3OM on what may be an amateur world record on
136, though with an estimated ERP much bigger than most amateurs have
available.

Mike, G3XDV
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