Re: LF: RE: Thick Litz wire needed, and more on class E PA development

[Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@gmail.com>]

That inductance value is not all allocated to the tank.   About 5uH is the tank.  Then follows an L-match network of series L shunt C to transform 50 ohms to the design Rload of 2.8 ohms.   Both L elements then get absorbed into one.    I've discovered one or two advantages in this technique - that make tuning up both easier in some respects and more critical in others.  But it does work very well provided  L  remains constant.     Reducing L on its own using this configuration increases current / power output quickly - although , very interestingly, efficiency hardly shifts.  

 

I also think there may be 'issues' if the output impedance developds a significant indicucive term - that's a subject for final investigation -how it copes with all phases of mismatch.

 

And after writing the previous eamil - realised there is a quick solution - just make the coil from two or three parallel strands of the same Litz

 

Andy

www.g4jnt.com

 

 

On 22 January 2011 18:31, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:

Hello Andy,

 

with 9.3UH the class E amp must have a rather high Q (12 ?). Maybe a lower Q (and more or less proportional lower L) might help ?

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

 

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Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens Andy Talbot [andy.g4jnt@gmail.com]
Verzonden: zaterdag 22 januari 2011 18:14
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Thick Litz wire needed, and more on class E PA development

Is there still any of the really thick Litz wire from the old Decca stations around?   I'm after about 3 to 3.5 metres of whatever is available that is thicker than 3mm, and preferably nearer 3.5mm diameter.    Enough to make a 9.3uH coil

 

The Tank coil in the latest version of the class E PA under test is now the power-determining item.   At 450 Watts output the heatsink with fan is COLD - but the coil annoyingly smells of hot varnish.

It is wound with the cotton covered Litz, about 2.5mm overall diameter which itself is a big improvement over the plastic covered stuff I was using for the breadboard.  But, I have the surreal situation that as teh coil gets hot, teh wire expands, inductance falls and due to the nature of the combined Tank + L-Match circuitry causes a resulting increase in powser output - leadign to higher dissipation and you can guess what will eventually happen if left unchecked.

 

One soluition will be to duct air from the fan through the coil, but I'd feel happier if loses were lower to start with.

 

At reduced Vdd it reaches stability running at 400 Watts without getting too hot and increasing itself spontaneously.

 

Efficiency, by the way, variously measures at 86 - 94%.  So I'll say around 88%.    Hard to believe, but I have been over everything and double checks, and can't get teh value below 84% however much I try to push errors in the worst direction.

 

The FETs are now a pair of IRFP360, and the  driver chip had to be replaced - the poor ICL7667 just went bang and split itself open driving them.  The copper of the PCB tracks running under it became discoloured so it must have bene running very hot before dying  Now using a pair of SMT TC4420 devices - one per FET -  with additional copper heat dissipating fins on the PCB.    They've survived so far.

 

Its been delivering  320 Watts for an hour now off a 37V rail, so at that power level is certainly reliable; brief forays up to a 55V rail gave slightly over 700 Watts - and I could see current rising as I watched due to the coil expanding, so didn't hold it there for long, but does mean the PA as it stands could be used with AM/envelope modulation.

 

The shack is getting quite warm now !

A second chapter to the write-up will appear in due course

 

Andy

www.g4jnt.com