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Re: LF: 500kHz WSPR

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Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz WSPR
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 23:07:32 -0000
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S1 ... Its   peaking  past 15 db over the  noise  floor at
my  QTH  .. oddly  no  false  decodes  , but that's  with
the ra6790  and  m-delta-4  sound card , may be
low  imd help's ..I dont  see  any  drop  in energy
to the  band edge ?

looks like  wspr  has entered a  new phase of  nonsense
on 500  with  stations transmitting  all over the  place
in and  out  of the  generous 501/504 allocation.
way  past the  b/w  of  any  tuned array to  track
not that  tuned  rx arrays are  desirable  on 500...

may  be  some  one  could  code a simple scan
facility to allow  frequency hopping to  keep  track
but  then  there  is the  time element , would
end up like spread spectrum on prozac , could
try  using  ham-radio delux in scan  mode
but  better  would  qsy linked to  clock
like  beacon-see ?

G.



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From: "Rik Strobbe" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:26 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: LF: 500kHz WSPR


Graham,

the QRM at the bottom end of the band does seemd too much harm to WSPR signals, some nights ago I had good copies of WD2XSH despite ithis QRM. The broadband transmission on 500kHz makes the noise level (at the bottom end) rising to S4 (it is about S1 at the top end), PA0A is booming S9++.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

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Van: [email protected] [[email protected]] namens Graham [[email protected]]
Verzonden: zaterdag 20 november 2010 23:06
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: LF: 500kHz WSPR

Nothing  compared to the  'Fog from Frog'
covering that  end of the  band ....?

wspr  never  was any  use on 500  due to  long tx times
and high  local  ground wave  propagation , someone
should  take a look at the  5 meg system and
take note , one short  pulse , job done ..



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From: "Rik Strobbe" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 9:45 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: LF: 500kHz WSPR


Some time ago some USA WSPR TX stations moved from 503.9kHz on 501.1kHz to
avoid RX blocking of local WSPR RX station., This allowed both USA
stations (listening on 503.9) and  European stations (listening on 501.1)
to copy WSPR DX without RX blocking by local TX stations .
But I noticed that in the following time more and more USA WSPR RX
stations moved down to 501.1kHz too. And as a result some (at least one)
European WSPR TX station moved down to 501.1kHz too (to be copied by the
USA WSPR RX stations that moved down) and is now blocking the Europeans
listening here.
So it seems that the RX blocking problem is back :-(
I guess this was not the goal ...

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T






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