Hi Mal and LF
I think (from memory) all the stations you listed were outside the 501-504 apart from the PA station. And I am sure they were all fully licenced station within their own respective territories.
From: mal hamilton <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: PA0A on 500kHz / legal or piracy?
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, 3 January, 2010, 16:35
WHY so much fuss about this station PA0A, what about all the acty over XMAS and NEW YEAR IE
MGY, PAT, IBHE, TEST XMAS, and others. Are these legal or otherwise?
g3kev
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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: LF: PA0A on 500kHz / legal or piracy?
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Hi LF
I take it that PA0A is one of the non legal stations we've been warned about (see below). He was CQing last night and no one called him although there were several on the band. Not a good idea to give Pirates a report not sure how it would affect our licence to use the band? 73 es GL petefmt --- On Sat, 2/1/10, M. Sanders <[email protected]> wrote:
From: M. Sanders <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: PA0A on 500kHz / legal or piracy?
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 1:13
To all LF,
Please beware that the official Dutch Telecom Agency has not yet published the issue of experimental licences for the 600m band tot the Dutch Amateur Radio organisations VERON and / or VRZA. For those able to understand Dutch language the most recent official publication is quoted below. However not all their memebers seem to have been adequately informed about the process. It is not even clear if notifications to participate in the experiment by individual Radio Amateurs have already been processed by the organisations.
I am most sorry to inform all LF interested parties via this reflector that the transmissions like the one recorded below and and therfore QSO's with PA stations may still be regarded as an act of 'radio piracy' by the PA stations, transmitting on an frequency band without official permission. It looks like it is not 'legal' yet to QSO with PA on 600m unit official publications have been issued by Dutch Telecom Authorities and VERON and/or VRZA have informed indivual Radio Amateurs in writing about their participation to the experiments transmitting on 600m. I suppose a starting date somewhere in the future will be in order, and not legalising transmissions 'after the fact' as of 1-1-2010 0:00LET.
Dutch Amateurs have a rich history of 'illegal' first-QSO's, starting in the 1920's with the first succesful trans Atlantic QSO's from PA. The Radio Amateur, OM Jesse, was convicted of 'radio piracy' but not fined and the Judge congratulated him and complimented him on his innovative achievement. History sometimes has the tendency to repeat it self.
Kind regards, Best 73's,
Michael Sanders, PC4M
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Onderzoek naar toegang tot 500 KHz voor radiozendamateurs
Tijdens het overleg met de belangenverenigingen voor radiozendamateurs VERON en VRZA op 7 oktober 2009 zijn afspraken gemaakt over de toegang tot de 500 KHz band. De verenigingen zullen onderzoeken wat de effecten zijn van het uitzenden in deze frequentieband in relatie tot de randvoorwaarden die voor de WRC 2012 zijn voorgesteld voor de 500 KHz band. De resultaten van het onderzoek worden ingebracht bij de nationale voorbereidingscommissie voor de WRC 2012 (NVC). De verenigingen moeten hiervoor een rapport indienen bij Agentschap Telecom.
Om het onderzoek te kunnen uitvoeren vragen de verenigingen een collectieve experimenteervergunning aan bij Agentschap Telecom. Over de inhoud van de aanvraag van de experimenteervergunning voeren de verenigingen nog overleg met de coördinator voor amateurzaken. De
randvoorwaarden voor de aanvraag en de uitvoering van het experiment zijn inmiddels met de VRON en VRZA besproken.
Als vergunninghouder van de experimenteervergunning zijn de verenigingen verantwoordelijk voor de uitvoering van het experiment. Zij kunnen individuele radiozendamateurs informeren hoe zij in aanmerking kunnen komen voor eventuele deelname aan dit experiment.
Individuele aanvragen voor een experimenteervergunning voor de 500 kHz zullen door Agentschap Telecom niet worden gehonoreerd .
Zodra de experimenteervergunningen zijn verleend, maken wij dit bekend via deze website.
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Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: PA0A on 500kHz
Rik,
Just looked at my grabber saves - this must be the two of you.
73
Gary - G4WGT
2010/1/1 Rik Strobbe <[email protected]>
I just worked PA0A on 502.5kHz with very good signals.
73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T
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