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Re: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: N-turn TX Loop
From: Piotr Młynarski <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:38:54 +0100
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James Moritz wrote:

Dear Piotr, LF Group,

Considering only the conductor losses for the moment, in principle increasing the number of turns of the loop by a factor N increases the radiation resistance by approximately N^2, while the loss resistance of the conductors increases by approximately N times, giving an improvement in efficiency of a factor N. However, if you instead connected the same N turns in parallel, you would have a single-turn loop with N parallel conductors, with a loss resistance 1/N times that of a single conductor loop, but with the same radiation resistance. This would also give rise to the same N times efficiency improvement. So from the conductor loss point of view, increasing the number of conductors in the loop should improve efficiency by much the same amount, it would not matter much whether the turns are connected in series or parallel.

However, the multi-turn loop inductance is also approximately proportional to N^2, if the turns are fairly close together. The current in the multi-turn loop will be reduced by a factor of N to achieve the same radiated power. Most of the loop impedance is due to its inductance, so the overall voltage across the loop will increase by a factor of N for the same radiated power.This means a greater electric field strength around the antenna, and so increased environmental losses due to the multiple turns - dielectric loss increases as the square of the applied electric field. So assuming a constant value of environmental loss (1.5ohm in your calculation) is not realistic, if a significant proportion of this resistance is due to dielectric losses, which is probably the case for most practical antennas. Probably the main virtue of the transmitting loop is the reduced environmental loss due to it being a relatively low-impedance, low-voltage device. so to maintain this advantage, it would seem to be a better idea to have multiple parallel turns rather than series turns.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

  Dear Jim, LF Group
I do thank you for your comprehensive answer. In particular, I did like your remarks concerning the contribution of increased dielectric losses ( as one increases the number of turns) in the overall environmental loss. In some way it is still an open issue but as you've said, from the point of view of practical antenna design , each tenth of Ohm counts... 73 de Piotr, sq7mpj
qth: Lodz /jo91rs/



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